The whistle blower story heats up. Yet another example of stonewalling.

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  1. struth

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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You write that as though it matters. It doesn't.
     
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    It does as far as the law turning it over to the intel committee.
     
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    Sorry he did not break the law. It's a bit more complicated than you make it out to be.
     
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    Because the writer of the peice is just ASSUMING what the nature of the complain is. It hasn't been made public, and hasn't even been released to the press yet. They are stating their OPINION of what the facts of the case are, and not actually citing the facts.
     
  7. Lee Atwater

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    What part of the factual story do you dispute?
     
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    More anonymous sources? Some folks will believe anything.
     
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    That any of it are facts at all. The writer is false claiming the nature and facts of the complaint that was file when they have no access to that complaint since he hasn't been made public.
     
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    Once the ICIG makes a determination the complaint is urgent and credible the DNI is obligated by law to inform the intel committees of the nature of the complaint. Full stop
    The DNI does not have the legal authority or the discretion to overrule the IC IG.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/3033
     
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    Sadly, you are behind on the current reporting of this story.
     
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    Except of course when the source is outside of the intelligence community.
     
  13. Lee Atwater

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    I keep seeing that specious argument. It must be circulating around all of right wing media. Unfortunately........

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/3033
     
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    Unfortunately for you it doesn't disagree.
     
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    It's worth pointing out no matter what the subject matter of Don's conversation with a foreign leader was........just as with Mueller's determination the legal definition of conspiracy on the Trump campaign's part was not met (though he found ample evidence of obstruction)..........blocking Congress' legal right to the whistleblower's complaint, or obstructing a congressional investigation, is resulting in a constitutional crisis.
     
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    How you wish it were so.
     
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    Apparently, the IC IG has been told to stonewall Congress at the direction of the acting DNI, who was instructed to do so by Billy the Bagman. According to reporting today, the IC IG disagrees with the instructions he has been given.

    New Docs: Intel IG Complained That DOJ, DNI Blocked Help To Trump Whistleblower

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckr...t-doj-dni-blocked-help-to-trump-whistleblower

    **Saying the substance of the complaint “relates to one of the most significant and important of the DNI’s responsibilities to the American people,” Atkinson described in the Sept. 17 letter “disagreement” between himself, the Justice Department, and acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire.

    “I have requested authorization from the Acting DNI to disclose, at the very least, the general subject matter of the Complainant’s allegations to the congressional intelligence committees,” the letter reads. “To date, however, I have not been authorized to disclose even that basic information to you, in addition to the important information provided by the Complainant that is also being kept from the congressional intelligence committees.”**

    I'm wondering if the whistleblower will take it upon him/herself to let the intel committees know what the nature of the complaint was as a patriotic service to the nation.
     
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    Apparently, the IC IG has been told to stonewall Congress at the direction of the acting DNI, who was instructed to do so by Billy the Bagman. According to reporting today, the IC IG disagrees with the instructions he has been given.

    New Docs: Intel IG Complained That DOJ, DNI Blocked Help To Trump Whistleblower

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckr...t-doj-dni-blocked-help-to-trump-whistleblower

    **Saying the substance of the complaint “relates to one of the most significant and important of the DNI’s responsibilities to the American people,” Atkinson described in the Sept. 17 letter “disagreement” between himself, the Justice Department, and acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire.

    “I have requested authorization from the Acting DNI to disclose, at the very least, the general subject matter of the Complainant’s allegations to the congressional intelligence committees,” the letter reads. “To date, however, I have not been authorized to disclose even that basic information to you, in addition to the important information provided by the Complainant that is also being kept from the congressional intelligence committees.”**

    I'm wondering if the whistleblower will take it upon him/herself to let the intel committees know what the nature of the complaint was as a patriotic service to the nation.
     
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    My apologies for the duplicate post.
     
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    Lee, thanks for the constant updates on this non story. I am sure by the time you find out this is a nothingburger you will be on to your next manufactured crisis. Unnamed sources, whistleblowers, anonymous insiders? You gotta come up with more than that.
     
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    And that's exactly what I was about to say.
     
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    Says the people who created the Russian collusion hoax and spent the last 3 years investigating their own creation.
     
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    You mean like putting millions of dollars of foreign currency in an airplane and sending it to a terrorist regime that the POTUS made a personal deal with.
     
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