The White People Who Need Proof of Racism

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  1. Guess Who

    Guess Who Well-Known Member

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    it is hard to debate with people who don't know anything about history but what they are told. You leave out some of the origins of whites. And you ignore the times whites were enslaved ,raped,tortured and " unspeakable horrors " were done to them. Trade had always been a part of humans since time began.
    Whites were not just colonizing they were trading, also. And most of the time it was the non whites who offered them land for trades or protection.
    I think that certain cultures promote certain kinds of economic success. Look at Japan. Same race of people but much better living situations for their people. And Japan liek all other races and peoples also did some bad things to Chinese and others. But no culture has done more to any race or tribe on earth as the arab Islamic one has. It took over Africa like a storm, enslaved its people and still sellign them today and the 'evil white christian' is still trying to buy back their freedom. yet blacks can't get enough of islam.
     
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    Archeologist finds have proven that whites lived in the Americas long before the asian hordes came here and killed them off. But who cares about facts long as history can be changed to benefit those in control the truth will be hidden and attacked. It wasn't the whites who killed the Aztecs. Or enslaved all of Africa.
    All peoples are good and bad, no people on earth are all good or all bad.
     
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    Nothing you just said is relevant to my point. White Supremacists who claim that non-Whites are taking over their lands and threatening their living space have no rational basis for saying this when you look at historical facts. They want to play victim and say that the land their ancestors took from others belongs to them.

    Which archeological studies can you cite to support your claim? Even if it were true the ancestors of Native Americans were in those lands before European colonists came there. If some ancient Caucasian population occupied America before the Asian ancestors of Native Americans they are unrelated culturally to the ancestors of modern Europeans who colonized America.

    The Spanish conquered the Aztecs and killed many of them. Are they not White Europeans to you? All of Africa has never been enslaved. You are the one who appears to be ignorant of history. Arab Muslims did conquer parts of Africa, took some Africans as slaves but also did a lot of traveling and there were Islamic states in Africa whose citizens became Muslims willingly. Africa was never at one time in recorded history under bondage by a single group of people in its entirety. They had their own societies, their own way of life and they interacted with foreigners in different ways as traders, enemies, allies, slaves, slave masters etc. and the relationships varied depending on which groups of Africans we're talking about, which region and which time period. The idea that Africans were simply the victims and pawns of other empires is racist propaganda.

    I agree that no group of people is all good and none is all bad. People are people.
     
  4. Guess Who

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    I knew it would be a waste of time trying to educate someone against their will. Plus my keyboard is messing up and I am ignorant when it comes to computer problems. I could use the help of my 8 yr old great grand son about now. That kid is a genius.
     
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    Never seen an American Indian reservation housing have you.
    Even though the USA government supports them, they still get rundown.
     
  6. Egalitarianjay02

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    You haven't actually said anything of substance that would qualify as education for me.When you fix your keyboard you can support your claim of ancient White Caucasians being in America before the Asian ancestors of Native Americans with a source.
     
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    First you prove the asian indians were here first. You have no proof except they were here when settlers arrived. I don't know how to paste so I use youtube and sometimes I put up the site link. After I prove my case the doubter leaves and so why bother? But I'll humor you if I can find it.
     
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    Here is one with a map.

     
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    The Vikings made contact with America before Christopher Columbus however the indigenous people of North America that we today call Native Americans or American Indians were already in America long before the Vikings. Your own Youtube video says they fought the Native Americans they encountered and called them "Skraelings."

    I don't know of any credible archeological research that says that any ancient European population was in America before the ancestors of Native Americans who are believed to have crossed from Asia in to America over the Bering Strait. There were claims that Kennewick Man was a White Caucasian but more recent research has refuted that claim which I addressed in a debate with Taxonomy26.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-with-solutions.510580/page-9#post-1067831939
     
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    More info and I too will put up more if I hold interest in this enough to type it out later on. Right now I found another more recent history to play with. JFK. Fun debating with you at least your not arguing.
     
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    More angry self pity messages?

    True that racism exists. Racism if rampant among blacks in a fashion of angry self pity, often as an excuse for laziness, refusing to learn and study in school, and expecting to be paid for and given special attention as a reward for whining - and used as a justification for race-based criminality.

    Nobody need prove jack to you either.
     
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    I am not suprise you suffer cognitive dissonance when confronted with your white supremacist garbage.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Brother Nathaneal - That jew hating conspiracy theory crackpot? Of course, this qualifies him for the "intellectual of the year" in jew hating circles, but for sane people it qualifies him for the trash heap of bigots.

    Beware!!!!!! the eeeeeeevilllllllllleeee jooz are comin' for people like you, once their master plan has been accomplished and all non jews have enslaved.
     
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    Funny the highest quality of living muds can enjoy is in white nations.

    Whites just need to be woke to the fact muds aren't needed and are in fact burdens and agitators against white society.
     
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    Tell me of those non-whites who, with their power, chose to end slavery for others? Establish democracy? Uplift untold billions?

    Tell us where blacks and browns can enjoy higher standards of living outside the White West that these muds burden and agitate against?
     
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    You don't credit for doing any of that. The White Egalitarians who were involved in ending slavery, establishing democracy and uplifting societies around the world, they can get credit for that. Of course that has nothing to do with them being White but anyone who has helped make the world a better place for us all to live in deserves credit. Not you. You had nothing to do with it. Most of the world progress you're referencing happened before you were born and your ideological forebears the White Supremacists were responsible for the death and oppression of millions. White Egalitarians today don't like you. You're an embarrassment to them. They don't identify with you and don't want to be associated with you because to them you are an evil racist who makes decent White people look bad. You're part of what's wrong with the world.

    I'm done answering these type of questions. You are a troll. You have been trolling this forum for years promoting racism. You should be banned. In fact racial slurs are against the rules so I think I will report you. In the mean time if you want to do something productive go respond to all of the sources that addressed your arguments in my thread on Scientific Racism.
     
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    yep sure do need be woke to facts. Literacy like that gives white folks a bad name.

    Just like obese beer swilling knuckledragging white boys waving conferate and nazi flags aren't needed and are in fact burdens and agitators against humanity.
     
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    So where do black and browns enjoy better quality of life than white nations?

    Funny none of the third worldists can answer.

    Whites don't need blacks and browns, but they do need to be woke to the fact blacks and browns burden and agitate against whites.
     
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    Comedic gold.

    Only whites uplifted you out of the stone age. Only whites freed you from enslavement by members of your race. Only whites keep you fed and combat HIV infection for black negros.

    Your highest quality of life is in white nations - not negro nations which are garbage dumps.

    Lol.

    The US and white west doesn't need basketball players and rappers for success. We thrive without this diversity.

    In fact, this diversity is an existential threat to modern civilization and white enlightenment values.

    Black and brown diversity is unneeded qnd unwanted.

    Why can't black and brown people thrive anywhere in the world?

    Why would whites want blacks and browns in their nations?
     
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    You're right. Here is some stats that get completely ignored in debates like this one. Crime and killings are usually black on black, white on white, Hispanic on Hispanic.

    Homicide

    According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008 while making up only 12.6% of the population, with whites 45.3%, while making up 72.4% of the population and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites (per 100,000), and the victim rate 6 times higher (per 100,000). Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks.

    Youth crime The "National Youth Gang Survey Analysis" (2011) state that of gang members, 46% are Hispanic/Latino, which makes up 16.4% of the population, 35% are African-American/black, 12.6% of the population 11.5% are white, 72.4% of the population and 7% are other race/ethnicity.

    I think the homicide rate stands out. But since it is basically blacks killing other blacks that isn't reported. To some, it isn't even acknowledged. There is no publicity given to it. the only publicity given is mostly when a white police officer shots a black man. National news immediately. Protests galore.

    Are we as a nation and even those who rant constantly about racism and these protests against police officers actually condoning the black on black murders and all other crimes committed by blacks against blacks to include drug trafficking.

    Now I might be naive as all get out, but it seems to me the concentration should be on getting the black homicide rate down, reducing black on black crime to bring their stats more in line with the nation as a whole. Stats and numbers that show this would save more black lives and reduce crime much more that protesting about police officers and shouting racism.

    Perhaps racism and police officers actions would be solved if the murder and crime rates committed by blacks were reduced hugely.
     
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    perhaps I'm merely over thinking this, but I don't think race really is anything more than a correlation. The real issue of why black people have such higher incidents ood violent crime is due to fatherless and subsequent poverty. I'd be willing to accept that the reason black people don't from stable families on a higher avararage is due to mistrust in the system. In all reality the system only started being fair for them 50 years ago. It requires a cultural change within the black populace.
     
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    Western countries don't need or want you.

    Your ideological forebears:

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    Take note of the Dutch woman's reaction to the Klansman thinking it's cute to transform in to a Nazi:



    This is how White Egalitarians feel about you. You're an embarrassment to them. As for this garbage about White Supremacists taking my people out of the stone age and civilizing them if the majority of Whites still thought like you throughout America history I would probably be plotting some Nat Turner style rebellion after being fed up with being whipped and tortured daily and forced to pick cotton all day while White slave masters sipped lemonade on their porch and debated which one of my female relatives they were going to rape tonight. The world is progressing while your mind is stuck in the past. The idea that White Nationalists could improve Western Civilization is a complete joke.
     
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    I am not surprised that such fallacies appear to constitute all of your twisted justifications for being a white supremacist.

    I mean other than claiming credit for the accident of their birth, I have yet to see a single white supremacist make any MEANINGFUL CONTRIBUTION to the quality of life in any "western nation". Seems taking credit for the blood sweat and tears of others is standard operating procedure for you and the gang.
     
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    I honestly doubt that even White Supremacists such as Rayznack believe their racist nonsense. His argument is purely emotional. He destroyed his credibility when he claimed that only a few non-Whites, who he calls muds, died during the genocidal campaigns of European colonization, enslavement and imperialism. He's know that's not true. He's trolling. But he also knows that no one in their right mind would take the idea seriously that White Supremacists have benefited the world in any meaningful way. He is just angry because he knows that we are telling the truth.

    He hates Blacks and other non-Whites and asks what are we doing for White societies when in reality he knows that most people today don't like his racist views. So the real question is how is racism benefiting the world? Racism is part of what is wrong with the world. So-called Western nations would be a lot better off if there were no racists. Everyone would get along better which is why when the world embraced progressive and egalitarian values there was much less discrimination and more harmony.

    There are no real world examples Rayznack can point to where racist ideology has ever lead to a peaceful and prosperous society. All racism has resulted in is chaos and destruction. The oppressors benefited but society as a whole does not and never has. White Supremacists in general are miserable people who have embraced bigotry because of their own personal failures and bad life experiences. Even if they got their way White Nationalists would either be destroyed like Nazi Germany for committing heinous atrocities or implode from in-fighting. You can't build a peaceful and prosperous society based on hate and they know this.
     
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    If I understand you correctly, its like their twisted hatefilled fantasies fuel their addiction to ideological masturbation.


    Sound about right?
     
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