There is a solution to school shootings

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  1. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member

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    Miniscule...okay cool... and that's acceptable....a cost benefit analysis sort of equation....as long as not too many are killed all cool... 17 kids killed in a school is a manageble number...doesn't dent the population too much ergo shouldn't infringe our rights.
    When does it become unacceptable?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So it doesn't bother you at all, that's why you've spent upwards of $400 for a gun and holster and carry it about with you all the time. It's very true I don't give a flying fandango about you, but your death has just supplied another gun to the underworld, and that is very definitely my concern and my business as it may be used against me someday.
     
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    Why do you take an utterly insane law for granted? Ban the NRA and get someone to explain the Constitution to the mugs - at classes in the Militia perhaps!
     
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    if I was suicidal but otherwise no.

    the vast majority of people who own guns will never be killed by a gun. I'm willing to bet statistically were talking about 99.9999 9% so statistics are in my favor.

    that's if they get the drop on me.

    The chunk chunk of a shotgun is rather settle. And it tends to get exactly the attention I want.

    I have used guns in defensive and tactical manners I have been trained and I'm pretty sure I can handle myself.

    well if they're coming into my house to kill me the best thing to do would be stop them. Easier too.

    What other issue would I need to deal with whether or not I got milk last night at the grocery store.

    If someone's trying to kill me the only issue on my mind is survival. It's called a fight or flight response. Not just flight.
     
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    Older retired people may not make the correct decision since they are slower in mind and body. I am an example.
    Our Constitution was written during a much earlier time in our history and needs to be adjusted for today's world.
    Actually many countries in and outside Europe do have Constitutions and are able to interpret the intent of Constitutional law for the public good.
    In America, gun owners are conveniently strict constructionists and Congresspersons are heavily financed by the gun lobby
    and don't want to lose that financial support.
     
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    Oh - you are a forced-birther eh, forcing children to have miserable lives till the time you think it would be fun to shoot them to keep George 111 out.
     
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    I do understand that they can own a gun within the law and then operate outside the law. So they can get a gun legally.
     
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    well I spend a lot of money on car insurance and I don't get into wrecks I spend a lot of money on house insurance and as of yet I haven't needed it I spend a lot of money being prepared for the worst. I'm willing to bet in my adult life I've spend some 20 to $30,000 on automobile insurance. A couple of hundred dollars for a one-time purchase. Yeah that's not that big a deal.

    A truck is more deadly and I just leave it sitting out in the street.

    If someone stole it and drove it in your house and killed you or your kid would that be my fault for buying the truck?
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about returning the thread to the point in the OP.
     
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    I'd say it's probably easier to get one illegally you don't have to get a background check.
     
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    The reason was the same - the cancer merchants, like the Killkids companies could bribe the politicans. Given the chance, I'd hang both lots.
     
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    It's unacceptable if it's just one that's why we have laws and courts and police.

    But way more people and get killed in traffic but we're allowed to have cars.

    So don't give me this s*** about cost-benefit analysis. You want me to give a s*** about that when it's guns.
     
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    You are the most brainwashed serfs to claim democracy - shitscared and with no serious rights whatever. Heil Trump and his minority regime, and have a good day now!
     
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    any human ever to exist may not make the correct decision.

    since we have far fewer murders and gun deaths now then back when it was written there isn't really a need.


    that always gives me chills. Who decides what public good is.
    so what is the dollar amount at which congresspersons are financed? How heavy is it?
     
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    Shouldn't infringe our rights to indulge infantile fantasies that we''ll be able to do what trained and practiced policemen usually are advised is so difficult they shouldn't even try unless there is no other choice? That's worth risking the most precious possessions we'll ever have about 200 times a year? The Bloody god-cursed HELL with your stupid childish TOYS. My children are worth FAR more to me
     
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    Thats a fair point but some would argue that transport is a neccessary function of modern life and that road deaths by and large are accidental and unintentional - is the same true for public gun ownership?
     
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    actually we're not a democracy or a republic.

    except for the right to free speech press a religion to own a gun. Sure those aren't rights their pretend.

    Lol what a joke.

    I suppose it wouldn't be completely deranged without some mention of Donald Trump.
     
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    Most people outside the 'States are baffled by their weird desire to live hundreds of years in the past. Like most people in deep delusion the gun-nuts want to spend their time agreeing with similar crazies. It is a pity they couldn't be allowed out into the real world sometimes.
     
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    It would if you took it to the worst part of town and left is outside a seedy bar with the keys in it. I might not be able to collect on insurance but you'd better not le me know where you live after I settle with the actual thief.
     
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    That would be a bad argument because we could make it illegal to drive personal vehicles and everyone could use public transportation that way we make sure the only people operating vehicles are very well trained.

    And as far as the deaths being unintentional, they're still dead f*** em they accidentally died so it doesn't matter?

    I don't guess I understand that.
     
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    Senator McCarthy showed exactly what your 'free speech' was worth. No civilised countries allowed profiteers to peddle the means to murder children week after week after week. It is not a right - it is an invitation to mass-murder, as well you know.
     
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    but if I kept it in my garage locked and secured without the battery in it. Then no?

    well if you decided to take Vengeance on me I have shotguns Bring It On.
     
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    yeah and people are scared to say they're coming because McCarthy I will get them right?

    Good Lord you're the funniest person I've ever met on this forum.
    it's illegal to sell children guns. So go get a clue and then return when you're a little more knowledgeable.
     
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    Only that motor vehicles are not designed as offensive weapons otherwise they would be kitted out like mad max machines in order to inflict maximum damage.....a bit like guns.....their purpose is to inflict damage on people.
     
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