There is a solution to school shootings

I want to see the science behind your logic. Tell me how cities like Chicago, NYC, and DC have such strict gun laws. Tell me how your logic works with that.

 

If they manage to kill dozens and hurt dozens more we'll deal with it...but that's not likely..

 

YOUR logic is that we should have no laws because people break the law.

Where's the "logic" in that?

 

I asked you a simple question. If strict gun control works, why are there so many gun deaths in Chicago, DC, and NYC? Is there a reason you refused?

 

Indeed. Moral equivocation will be our downfall.

 

He refused because he knows he is wrong. His side simply refuses to acknowledge that guns don’t fire themselves and furthermore refuses to hold accountable the bad guys who do most of the firing. Look at my state of CA - Jerry Brown never met a felon he didn’t want to french kiss and give a reach around. Oh I’m sorry did I aay felon? I meant justice-impacted individual. You can’t call them felons any more in the Golden State.

 

They keep saying that stricter gun control will solve the problem. Yet it's made things worse in the cities that have it...

 

No because we have a culture in this country that feels the need to give everyone equality regardless of how they behave publically, UNTIL they do something like this! The PC crowd protects these type of people from neighbor to neighbor, publically with educational facilities actually housing nut jobs in "Special" Education classes within the confines of more balances students, well somewhat more balanced! Just a side note, a great amount of ridicule is a factor when "Special needs" are mingled with the so called "Normal Children" and in most cases has been a underlying reason for some violent retaliation!

Another problem in this country is "desensitization" of murder/killing/death! I don't understand why people are so quick to dismiss the fact that for at least two decades children at very young age have been subjected "May be to strong a descriptive" to violence everywhere! Television in days of old, I personally can remember seeing the assignation of JFK and Oswald played out dozens of times while a young child. Then along came Vietnam and the constant nightly views of carnage! And these images have only become much more vibrant and far less softened..

In recent time all these atrocities have been made uncensored via the world wide web to the point that nothing is surprising or shocking! There is no longer sacred or age rated anymore!

One other thing scoffed at and never taken serous is violent video games, ya I know! A quick history of it evolution! In the early days a player would engage with AI and that AI was pretty lame at best. Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem and other was about killing "Creatures" and simple computer AI, we all knew this!

Fast forward to mid 90's, by then a programs like Kali95 brought us all "Gamers" together via the modem and we all became competitive with software controlled by 'HUMAN" opponent. One on One games like C&C, StarCraft gave the rush of destroying an opponents Army, bases, war machines and finally his or her army! Anyone familiar with these interactive scenario's in those day will understand the feel of online victory and it's absolute addiction!

Present day.
Now we have MMO interaction where literally hundreds of million of combatants gather every second of every day from country all around the world! People have dies at their consoles, keyboards from exhaustion, malnutrition and stress simply to "KILL" another gamer or "Group" of gamers for a retarded level or ladder board or some piece of digital gear that is epix or legendary! People should honestly take a long historical look at how online communications and social media has changed the minds of the generations we see emerging today! Just because none of this has effected you personally, it is certainly effecting some peoples children in adverse ways..

Game consoles are hardly purchased as and education tool, and the software industry is clearly geared to demand, and that demand is VIOLENCE, and that violence is and has been interactive between human players

 

Imagine if that heroic football coach in Florida who gave his life shielding students with his own body had been able tp return fire as opppsed to simply being a bullet stop.

 

That’s too hard and it requires actually holding people accountable. Better to just blame an inanimate object. /sarcasm.

 

Nothing insane about it. Our founders knew that with rights came responsibilities. Freedom and rights has its costs because of crazy people, and criminals. Those that will use freedom and rights in order to kill others is not because of the freedom and rights but because they are bad people. But because of bad people, only an idiot would want rights destroyed, when 99.99999999 percent of the people who enjoy those rights are not crazy nor criminals. Taking away rights because of a tiny percentage is idiocy, stupidity, ignorance, and should qualify one for a mental institution right next to the shooters.

 

They holla for gun control but do not dare disarm city ghetto's. Children as young as ten packing 38's, 9's and absolutely conditioned to use them violently at slightest need to. The only reason we don't see more school violence is because many of these inner city children don't go to school, they learn all they need as fodder from the slingers and adult gang members that finance them!

 

Civil rights and over the top Political Correctness!

 

That's why I love a Dog, at 4x the distance then the hearing of a human they haven't a chance of gaining the element of surprise

 

And you don't think that the NAACP and the ACLU aren't? Laughable. We endure gun crime because we fear becoming the sheeple other nations have become. We recognize that when the government corrupts irrevocably, that there has to be a remedy.

 

Yeah because he'd likely just get a pistol like most mass shooters.

 

Rubio was given 3 million dollars as an example. Trump got their support in the election and doesn't care anyway. When our schools are no longer safe, I would call a decision based on that for the public good, yes? And yes, the government decides this unless you live in a "shithole." Of course one could lose the vote of the lobbying group if one goes against them for the public good.
There is most definitely a need because back when it was written we were fighting a war on our own soil, so of course, there were many killed. But that was then and this is now, but it isn't your child who was killed by a broken human being. So there really isn't a need. We'll
just troll along with a group of our babies killed every so often. What the hell. Not your or my problem, yes?

 

Who is blaming you? The greater good is being served and it needs to be served before more children are killed in our schools.
I have an idea. How about a huge tariff on all owned and purchased guns to
cover the cost of metal detectors in schools and armed patrols? Sound good.

 

You don't need a gun to make a living or to go from a to b. Gun shootings are deliberate. Take away the accidental gun shootings and compare.

 

How did the NRA get their money?

So chuck the constitution for a dictatorship because a nincompoop deemed some political move public good? Thats how you start a civil war.

If government decides people don't. It is a dictatorship and thus a shithole.

It isn't the vote of a lobbying group.

Bullshit.

And taking away my rights wouldn't fix a broken human being. So it's a stupid solution. You are duped into thinking it isn't because you are being used as a political pawn.

Again Bullshit.

The solution isn't to throw out the constitution. You mentioned a broken man but magically the problem is something there is 600 million of in our country?

**** those children as long as your dumbass party gets what it wants. And you get to feel like a winner.

 

Who's going to disregard these rules? The shooters. Fail.

Lock the schools down. No one gets in or out.

 

No idiots think that laws will magically fix broken men that shoot up schools because the morons they vote for say so but in reality it was never about the greater good it was about eroding the constitution to gain more power.

It should send chills down anybody's spine when anyone mentions the grater good.

Dumb idea. Gun free zones are soft targets.

 

What's the point of making a law that you know will have no effect?

 

If I recall correctly, isn’t there a school in Utah that already does that?

And there are other ways we can stop mass shootings:
1) Make mental health treatment more easily accessible and affordable.
2) Ban automatic weapons (and ONLY automatic weapons) from public sale / use.
3) Change the legal age to be able to purchase a gun to 25-years-old.
4) Make background checks more extensive and strict (and close any loopholes).

Why should the minimum age be 25 and not 21? The answer lies in brain development itself. The brain is actually the last part of the body to fully mature. So, even though you are considered an adult at 18-years-old (in America), your brain is still growing. According to neuroscientists, brain development persists until you turn 25-years-old. https://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/02/18/at-what-age-is-the-brain-fully-developed/
For a younger person, their cognition, ability to assess risk, and think logically (rather than emotionally) have ways to go. If they purchase a gun, they may not fully grasp that they are dealing with a deadly weapon that can potentially kill someone. Therefore, until their brain is fully developed, they should have no business purchasing a gun in the first place, especially an automatic rifle.

 

This Cruz creature bought the weapon legally. He had multiple magazines for the weapon. The weapon he had has not been shown to have been equipped with a 'bump' stock. Moreover, he passed the 'background check'

BUT, he had been reported directly to our wonderous FBI. And what good did that do? Evidently, the FBI just blew it off because, as we have seen, the FBI has much better things to do, like continuing with its anti-Trump subterfuge, and hunting for 'evidence' to support the completely unproven radical-Democrat mantra that "the Russians hacked the election for Trump"....

.. These men who know how to deal with monsters like Nikolas Cruz.