There is no such thing as Freedom of Religion

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  1. Maquiscat

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    That's not racism, and this is what I am talking about with the misuse of the word. Racism is the belief of either one race being superior to all others or one race being inferior to all others. At best you are bigoted against reparationists, but that isn't a race issue, i.e. it isn't something inherent with being black.
     
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    He doesn't have to want them to be illegal to be against them. That is the main difference. There are plenty of perople who are against abortions and SSM, that still feel that freedom means we allow others to do so despite being against them.
     
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    I don't know if the reality that you openly admit to being a racist is supposed to comfort or disturb. It is, either way, extremely.... WEIRD.

    But oh well, carry on. And I will spend my time on members more worthy of debate.
     
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    But each race pretty much carries it's own culture with them.
     
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    So you don't any difference at all between senseless torture and an absence of torture? :eek:
     
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    Extremist alt right racist disinformation!

    Marriage is a partnership where each member brings something to the table that the other needs and wants. That you misperceive it as a superior/inferior arrangement is an imposition of bigotry stemming from ignorance of healthy relationships.
     
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    Not from what I have seen in my 66 years. Relationships usually have give and take but one in the relationship generally holds the power when there is a stalemate. A mixing of cultures can work if they are similar but if they are diametrically opposed they aren't likely to work.
     
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    You are entitled to your bigoted opinion but interracial relationships do work!
     
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    Some do but most don't especially among the low income class. In my experience with 30 years at a local flea-market I have seen many interracial relationships go through and most only lasted about a year. After they fail they continue to choose the same race as before for their mates, these haven't just been blacks and whites but Mexicans and whites as well.
     
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    In other words you are basing this entirely on your own myopic experience.

    Got it!
     
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    As you base yours on your own myopic experience as well.
     
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    Except that I have international experience working with people of all races in a variety of different cultures.

    I appreciate that people, irrespective of race, sex, creed, etc, etc are just people with all the same aspirations, failings, hopes and desires. They are no better or worse for having been born in different circumstances and what they make of their lives is because of who they are as persons.

    I have seen white people who have wasted every opportunity they were given and blacks who created opportunities for themselves out of nothing.

    So my experience has shown me that it is not your skin color that matters but who you are as a person inside.

    Too bad you haven't had the opportunity to share my experiences.
     
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    Not really. You might find some commonalities, but you can find them between the races as well. For example, black British culture is quite different from black American culture. And that is before you take into account that there are several different cultures that can have overlap among the races, such as Hip Hop culture
     
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    I have experienced many cultures when I served in the Navy and was stationed overseas during my enlistment. I have seen some who would fit your description and many who fit my description especially here in the south.
     
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    Being in the Navy is not the same as actually living amongst different cultures overseas.

    That you remain bigoted even after seeing that little you have says volumes!
     
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    That depends on the "religion" you're citing. There are churches that allow members to believe whatever they want. The Unity church would be an example. Fundamentalist and evangelical churches would fall into the category you describe, along with many other "establishment" churches.
     
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    That's true for some humans, not all. I don't count myself as one of those you describe.
     
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    I met many people and mostly lived off base. You don't have to know everyone and every culture to form an opinion, you have been successfully indoctrinated into the PC culture.
     
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    Ironic coming from someone successfully indoctrinated into bigotry!
     
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    No I was born into bigotry I stay because I see so many demanding they are owed something simply because of their skin color and what happened to their ancestors. Possibly here in the south a majority of low income blacks fall into this culture. I have seen Mexicans who still live in a culture of trying to get land back won in the Mexican/American war. If you form your opinion on financially successful and educated minorities only then your opinion is no more valid than mine.
     
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    No one is born a bigot!

    You were indoctrinated into bigotry!

    There are a great many low income whites who share your bigotry about blacks. But just because they share it does not make them correct about blacks.

    The hard facts are that there are more whites on welfare than blacks. There are plenty of whites who feel entitled just because of being born white. Their bigotry makes them believe that being born white makes them "superior" to their fellow Americans who were born black.

    The reality is that given equal opportunities there is no difference whatsoever between blacks and whites.

    But as a bigot you refuse to deal with reality.

    And yes, that is your problem and the problem of your fellow white bigots. Blacks are equal to you in every respect and nothing is going to change that fact.
     
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    Yes, indeed, that is kind of sad....
     
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    AWESOME POSTING.
    BEST DARNED POST OF THE DAY
     
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    I never mentioned welfare but here in Arkansas it is next to impossible to get welfare if you are white. At one point in my life I tried and was turned down and told that I was not the right color.

    I have not problem with African Americans who do not talk jive or think whites owe them something for slavery. When I used to use the n word, I used it to describe those blacks who thought they should be given something because of slavery and also to describe whites who are just too lazy to work and only want to take or be given things.

    As for being a bigot or racist I have seen evidence of the same thing in the black race towards the whites. This whole white privilege BS is part and parcel to that racism. Just because it happened in the past does not mean it is still happening today, the same as slavery no longer exist in America any longer. I will put aside my racism when I see blacks call out those other in their race racists or bigots. They had an opportunity to improve the situation when Obama got elected but all that happened was to increase the divide between the races. The only way to improve things is for individuals themselves to work together to eliminate racism. I can answer civility with civility when it is presented but I will not answer hatred with civility, the only thing that happens when you turn the other cheek is you get hit on the other side. In public I try to "do unto others as I would have them do unto me", but it appears as though most people do unto others before they do unto me.
     
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    No big surprise that bigots blame their bigotry on the victims of their bigotry!

    It just goes with the territory of being a bigot in the first place.
     
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