Things We Righties Can Live Without

For sure, look at all the people who watch commercials about drugs for conditions they don't have. The secret to success in business isn't a secret. You need a product or service that people want and you need to tell them you have it and have a way to get it to them. I don't know Ben and Jerry but I applaud their entrepreneurship and success at business. I would recommend they drop the public partisanship to be even more successful.

 

That could just as easily have the opposite effect of alienating your loyal customer base

 

I don't understand that. The idea would be to keep the company out of politics. You think people would demand public partisanship? I don't see that at all.

 

I agree with DG. The "politics" is part of the product.

 

Possibly but it might better without it. If the ice cream is good people will buy it. Politics doesn't make it any different. It just limits the audience.

 

Not to be rude, but that is a very naïve view of how the market works. Very often how something is marketed has a far greater impact than the taste or quality.

 

Very true. I've been with a commercial label printer for many years, and the degree of (cosmetic) perfection demanded by our customers is reflective not so much of what's in the can, but who's name is on the label. For example, Safeway Select labels must be virtually flawless, while Best Value brand (generic) can have some defects. The irony that illustrates the point is these labels are shipped to the same cannery, and the green beans in both likely came from the same crop.

As to ice cream, I'm more of a Häagen-Dazs guy, which itself is based on a made-up European sounding name.

 

Same thing. You still pay taxes. The only difference is that the renter has nothing to show after years of paying. A good long term strategy would be to live below ones means and invest in real estate. I realize people are more likely to buy the latest Iphone and drive an expensive car, but in the end, you are much better off owning a home.

 

Not in the long run. These guys have been around for decades. If their product weren't good, it wouldn't be a national brand all that time no matter how it is marketed. You can fool the public for a while but not a long while. Without any personal experience I can tell you that because of the company's history, it has a good product that satisfies its customers. It can't be any other way.

 

There are many examples of this which show you are wrong.

Corona beer is a perfect example. In blind taste test it almost always comes in dead last. Nobody likes it when they do not know what is it. But their marketing strategy has people drinking it and it is a thriving, national brand.

Microsoft is another. I do not know your age but I was around for the OS wars between Apple, MS and OSWarp. Microsoft was the inferior of the products, but they won the lion share of sales due to their marketing strategy.

 

So when are you guys going to take back your party? Believe it or not, we miss you!

 

If you have “given up” on all of the above because it doesn’t align with your beliefs it doesn’t seem like this is your country.

You have tried to make it into your image and We the people have said no. The trumplicans and far right is becoming more vicious and unstable because they know the end is near for them. Let’s just hope the nation can survive longer than they can try to sabotage it

 

I might argue the validity of the taste test. If people think Corona tastes worse than budweiser or Miller, then I don't value their opinion. They do a great job of marketing for sure. Other Mexican brands have begun following suit. Dos Equis and Modelo have earned some fame.

I was in the computer industry when all of that happened. Microsoft got where it got not from marketing but from the brilliance of providing DOS to IBM for free. IBM carried them forward. Windows was horrible until they finally dropped the DOS compatibility. The Unix based OS entries like Apple's are all better than Microsoft. I use Linux for most personal things. It is more stable and customizable than the other PC systems. I use Windows for business because everybody else does and the software I use requires it. I'm a geezer at 76 years of age.

 

I haven't given up on anything. I just listed a few of the un-anti American policies and values of the dems that we Righties can live without.

The far right have become more vicious and unstable? LOL! What political party do you suppose is responsible for last year's nightly burning of small businesses (many minority owned), of defunding the police, of letting criminals out of jail free, of attacking and murdering police, of representing blue cities where the murder rates are breaking all kinds of records, of for 4 years constantly attacking Trump and accusing him of Russian collusion--only to find it to be a complete hoax, and having hollyweird celebrities call for Trump's death and even biden saying he would take Trump behind the barn and beat him etc.

Sabotage our nation? LOL! You got the useless/feckless biden killing 11 thousand jobs with the shut down of the Keystone pipeline. You got biden catering to the loony green new deal idiots by promoting a 10 trillion dollar nation destroying plan. HR1 and the filibuster dreams of biden if passed would surely be the end of America s we know it. And you got the nerve to say any sabotage of our nation would be done by we Righties? LMFAO! Time to get real, pal.

 

You're living in a right wing fever swamp.

Trump has done more damage to this country than any president in history. He single handedly succeeded in undermining democracy with a large section of the electorate. There can be no betrayal of American values than that.


Not to mention:

Trump is one of the worst presidents in history, because....

because of his efforts to decay the concept of separation of powers, i.,e his attempt at using the DOJ to do his bidding, interfere in legal proceedings which affect his friends.

Because of...

his dispatching of federal troops (Erik Prince? I think he hired Blackwater thugs ) to interfere in local protests,

his phony photo-op holding a bible in front of a church who publicly rebuked him, while his AG dispatched federal police to smoke bomb peaceful protestors,

his incessant asserting the 'press is the enemy of the people' ( any president who says that IS the enemy of the people ),

His incessant petty tweeting, most of it misleading or outright lies, and getting into petty spats with people unimportant with the Office of the President,

his separating children from parents whose only crime was no greater than a misdemeanor ( first time crossing is a misdemeanor ) noting his
administration incompetently failed to rejoin the kids with parents due to sloppy and reckless bookkeeping, a crime tantamount to child abuse,

his asking foreign governments to help him in his election, ( abuse of power )

his shaking down a foreign leader for help in his campaign, his using the WH for political campaign purposes, (abuse of power),

His blanket refusal to honor congressional subpoenas, (Eric Holder did it on a case basis, NOT in a blanket fashion ) which is, in point of fact, obstruction of congress,

his obstruction of justice during the Mueller investigation, at least 4 clear cut cases,.

His appointing superrich ( many from Goldman Sach's ) to cabinet posts,

His appointing lobbyists to cabinet posts given them supervision over the agencies they previously were lobbyists against,

his corruption, bilking of the US Taxpayer to the tune of $16 million from entourage stays in his hotels and resorts, all of which his family has profited from,

his nepotism, allowing his daughter in law to win millions of dollars worth of China trademarks while he was negotiating with China, his allowing Jared to garner a $500 million bailout from QATAR,

his nauseating fawning over Putin whose objective is to destroy and/or greatly diminish America's standing in the world,

his incessant egregious lying, i.,e., "Truth Decay"

his refusal to accept the findings of science, his politicizing the CDC and the NIH and thus eroding public trust in these institutions,

His gutting of the state department ( half the ambassadorships and many important state dept posts are left unfilled, which renders America to like flying a boeing jet without instruments ),

Trump's usurping the Senate by appointing 'acting' heads of departments of whom the president is supposed to appoint and be confirmed by the Senate, the acting heads cause more instability and decrease of moral in the rank and file in those departments,

Trump's firing of Comey, which was detrimental to the morale of the rank and file of the FBI, and Trump's scapegoating the FBI, and undermining a once trusted American institution (post Hoover, of course).

his acquiescing to Erdogan by allowing DOJ to interfere in US Attorney's office investigation of a Turkish bank because it will adversely affect members of Erdogan's family, noting that Erdogan tried to do it with Obama, and his DOJ refused, but Erdogan is finding Trump a pliant president, noting that Trump abandoning the kurds, who were instrumental in helping us in the Iraq war, whose members died for America, Trump did this to appease Erdogan, whereupon the vacuum that that pull out created forced the Kurds to turn to Russia, thus increasing Russia's influence in the region, noting that Trump has property in Turkey,

Trump's decision to begin the process of withdrawing the United States from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty will end an arms control agreement with Russia that has been a centerpiece of European security since the Cold War. The move, meant to penalize Russia for noncompliance, is likely to alarm the international community, particularly Europe, and cause fears that the US and Russia could enter a new nuclear arms race.

Trump's pulling out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, A massive trade deal meant to counteract China's economic power. Trump ran on a promise to spike the plan, saying it was unfair to American workers. The pact was never officially adopted by Congress. The other 11 nations have carried on without the US, the void this pullout caused allowed China to gain considerable influence over international Trade in the affected regions. The partnership was an agreement that was the result of many years of negotiation.

His pullout of the Iran nuclear deal. Despite criticism, the deal bought America about 15 years of time to work on ways to thwart their development of nukes, and without the deal, they are restored to their pre-agreement abilities, with one difference, their money in banks, which was frozen, is now in their hands, so we don't have the benefit of the agreement nor the benefit of the freeze on their funds.

Trump's receiving a $500 million dollar loan from Deutsche Bank while simultaneously a deposit that amount was made to that bank, the money coming from a Russian state bank ( which means Putin controlled ) which makes Trump beholden to Putin, which explains his refusal to criticize Putin, or do much about Russian election interference.

Trump's appointing a Secretary of Commerce who was the VP of the real estate loan department at Deustche Bank when Trump was getting many loans from Deutsche Bank,

Trump's lack of transparency of $100 million which were paid to Trump's inaugural committee ( a historical figure, so where did the money go? no inauguration in history cost anywhere near that much)

Trump's failure to grasp certain fundamental economic concepts, his contentions which are essentially false, such as 'Tariffs are paid by China" ( no, they are paid by Americans )

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...fs-show-he-doesnt-get-how-trade-works/589351/ 'Trade deficits rip off America' (though there are adverse affects, they don't actually "rip off America" this notion is a failure to grasp what trade deficits are )

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/24/trump-trade-war-china-europe-deficit/

Trump's appointing of a Postmaster General whose apparent mission was to slow down mail in ballots from arriving on time, noting that this postmaster general (Dejoy) has failed to comply with a court order to expedite the mail in ballots.

Trump's 'tax cut' which was nothing more than largesse for the superrich, and crumbs for everyone else thus causing deficits to careen to levels history has never seen, noting that the 'tax cut' included the repeal of the 'alternative minimum tax' which benefitted himself, his family, and his rich friends to the tune of billions, which means that American tax payers have to take up the slack ( the ensuing deficits ultimately, sooner or later, cause inflation, which is an indirect tax on the middle class, who are less likely to hedge, and an asset increase to the rich, who can hedge),

Trump's imposing tariffs which caused farmers to permanently lose markets, causing a rise in farmer suicides, noting that this caused a rise in the price of consumer goods the tariff's affected, which is just about anything for sale in any department store, the price increase of which offset the crumbs working class American's received with the tax cuts.

Trump's epic failure in the handling of Covid-19, resulting in thousands upon thousands of preventable deaths.

As for his 'stats', they are unimpressive. This was before Covid, GDP, nothing to write home about. Given that he's undermined democracy
and lessoned America's leadership in the eyes of the world, he's a total failure, noting all the above. Donald Trump is an idiot and a despicable human being.

 

Well, yeah you have. your own words suggest that...

My beloved Boston Red Sox lost me when they posted the Marxist group's 'BLACK LIVES MATTER' on the marquee at Fenway Park, in the iconic typeface used on their uniforms. Of course my beloved Boston Celtics lost me as well when the players had 'BLACK LIVES MATTER' etched on their uniforms.

Now we're going to try to live without the MLB, Delta Airlines, and Coca-Cola as well for their condemnation of Georgia's laws that would prevent future election fraud.

You gave up watching your beloved Red Sox and now you are going to "try to live without" a large number of things...all due to politics.

Why are politics such an important part of your life?

 

Mainly we can live without the lies

MEET THE OPPRESSED: The cofounder of BLM just bought a $1.4 million L.A. “compound” in a rich, largely white neighborhood.

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"Hundreds of millions of Americans can't afford a Californian estate."

 

I hope you aren't missing that Carson and Leno were never political analysts.

They were purely out for a laugh. Feeling butt hurt by what some comedian says hits me as worse than childish.


Much more importantly, I'm startled that you would see those opposed to the wholesale slaughter by gun owners in America as a move by an ENEMY!!

Do you think there is something to LIKE about the slaughter we experience day in and day out?

Do you think other countries are MISSING something due to not having that kind of death count in their countries??

 

To be fair, I think we should all be boycotting Hollywood.

Continuing to fund them, is like giving the keys to human minds to five year old narcissists.

 

Unfortunately you're quite wrong. Communism is an economic model (of pooled resources). ANYONE of ANY political persuasion can be a communist. Some of the best and most efficient collectives are very conservative, mostly via religion.

 

It does though. It means you're potentially alienating 50% of your trade.

It's an incredibly stupid thing to do, if you're serious about your business.

 

As a business, you can't take that risk. You can't just 'hope' that no one will mind.

 

Why on earth would your customer base want you dabbling in politics, if your job is icecream? How could remaining focused on icecream and staying out of politics 'alienate' anyone?

 

Yeah, that's the weirdest thing isn't it! Imagine needing to know your icecream manufacturer's private thoughts about something entirely unrelated to icecream.

 

Sure, marketing is very powerful. But marketing in a way which potentially alienates half your market, is incredibly foolish.