Thirteen-year-old girl is forced to give birth under Mississippi abortion ban

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    If that 13 yr old was a daughter of a Republican, my money is on they would make sure she got an abortion.
     
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    You have to prove rape occurred and the police have not concluded 100% that rape occurred. That is the designed problem in the new state abortion law. Investigation into rape allegations take longer than the prescribed amount of time before abortion is banned
     
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    So you believe opposition to abortion is on par with rape and pedophilia? Sorry, I can't see the logic there.
     
  5. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like fascism to me. Remember the Salem Witch Trials? They too "let the blame fall where it may".
     
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    What is there to investigate? Statutory rape is defined by statute as an act of sexual intercourse with a person under the age of consent, which is considered to constitute rape under the law, whether the person is willing or not. The child was raped.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So blaming conservatives for their dipshit policies makes them victims? Conservatism truly is the perpetual state of victimhood.
     
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    that's a silly requirement
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Go Fund Me. Lots of folks would have helped out. For over 2 months the girl did not experience her period yet momma didn't know her child was pregnant until they took her to a doctor months later? Sounds like the mother failed her daughter.
     
  11. ToughTalk

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    She couldn't get an abortion in Memphis because?

    Here's the clinic;
    https://yourchoices.org/memphis/abortion-clinic-memphis-tn/
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    Here's the law;
    https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/111/Bill/SB1257.pdf
    I'd say the blame should be placed at the physician who looked at a 13 year old and couldn't determine that "in the physician's good faith medical judgment, based upon the facts known to the physician at the time, that the abortion was necessary to prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman."

    So let's get things straight here with this story.. They would have normally just drove to a clinic in Memphis 90 minutes away, a clinic that still exists mind you...all the doctor had to do was declare that an 13 year old is at serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function.

    A simple google search which the activist...I mean doctor could have done would have led her to this study;
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4418963/

    Which details that women aged 11-14 are at 5 times increased risk for many complications including;
    https://www.healthline.com/health/endometritis#symptoms
    and
    https://www.healthline.com/health/puerperal-infection
    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/12309-chorioamnionitis
    https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-is-a-fistula-1941776

    Permanent damage can accrue to the pelvic floor as their pelvis is likely to not have developed enough to allow a baby to be pushed through it. That means that a C section is much more likely and that too comes with risks;
    https://www.webmd.com/baby/risks-of-a-c-section

    So I'm sorry...but what the hell kind of doctor is this activist, "Dr. Erica Balthrop"? It took me less than 5 minutes of google research to come to the conclusion that a 13 year old qualifies for an abortion still, even under these new/strict tennessee laws.

    Here's a nice picture of the activist doctor;
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    Reminds me of this;
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    TLDR?

    Blame the idiot doctor who wouldn't sign off of an abortion for a ****ing 13 year old and instead used her as a pawn for outrage and a sad story.
     
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  12. Pro_Line_FL

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    I was going to say "unintended consequences", but its not unintended, - it's exactly what they wanted.
     
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    Conservatives are not the ones that raped the girl. Banning abortion did not get that girl raped. Even if abortion was not banned it would not have gotten that girl raped. The ONLY one that needs to be blamed is the rapist. You can knock conservative values all you want. But to pin the blame on conservatives is nothing more than partisan claptrap using this girls rape for political gain. A very despicable act almost as despicable as the rape itself. If it wasn't for the abortion debate (one way or the other) you would never even have heard about this girls rape. Or if you did it would have been nothing more than a blurb in the criminal section of a newspaper that you passed by on your way to the sports section.
     
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    Except that Mississippi has a rape exception, so try again.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Psst...this happened in Mississippi. Not Memphis TN.
     
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    Nope, not in this case. She was not allowed it.
     
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    Here's the original link I clicked on.. same story, but from Time magazine with a bit more detail;
    https://time.com/6303701/a-rape-in-mississippi

    "Seven months earlier, Balthrop could have directed Ashley to abortion clinics in Memphis, 90 minutes north, or in Jackson, Miss., two and a half hours south."

    Doctor evaluating Ashley is an activist.
     
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    Abortion is criminalized in TN, so what would have been the point in driving there?
     
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  19. ToughTalk

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    I posted the actual abortion law. So ya. You are wrong.

    Here;
    https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/111/Bill/SB1257.pdf

    Specifically;
    "The physician determined, in the physician's good faith medical judgment, based upon the facts known to the physician at the time, that the abortion was necessary to prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman."

    It took me all of 5 minutes of google search to come up with enough evidence to argue as to why a 13 year old would qualify for an abortion in Memphis.

    Doctor wanted a sad story and used the 13 year old as a pawn.
     
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    There is nothing to stop the girl from getting an abortion. She's 13, she was obviously raped. The law only says that the rape must be reported to law enforcement before getting an abortion. Nothing in it says they have to wait until an investigation is done.
     
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    The law prevented it. Clearly the rape has to be reported after it happens, so they can verify it to be the case. At that time they would also collect DNA samples so they could catch the rapist
     
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    we should never force a child to have her rapists baby
     
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    Read the law. I did. That's why I know that there is nothing in it that prevented this 13 year old girl who was obviously raped from having an abortion. Nothing in it says she had to wait for an arrest to happen.
     
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    Who said anything about arrest? If you want to claim you were raped and want an abortion, you need to prove it, which is why you have to report it after it happens and get examined. You can't wait 2 months and then try to report it, because the evidence would be gone.

    The law is what it is, - it criminalizes abortion unless you are raped and submit yourself to be examined. Only then you have the necessary proof. Unfortunately the majority of sexual assaults are not reported, which makes getting an abortion nearly impossible.
     
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    Show me where it requires physical evidence of a rape in the abortion law. (hint: it doesn't)

    Bold: The OP Article.
     
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