This is Outrageous

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...ility/ar-AAAbjsV?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=ansmsnnews11

    Suing the VICTIMS of a shooting now? This is beyond belief.

    At the very least Mandalay Bay should be boycotted out of business and I, for one, will no longer patronize any movies, shows, performers or entities of any kind who are sponsored by or work for MGM or any of its affiliates. i urge you not to either and I think the same should be done to the entire city of Las Vegas if they continue this
     
  2. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well they aren't actually suing anyone for anything, they are responding to lawsuits by countersuing because that then gives them a say in where the case is heard.

    Their only goal here is to get an unbiased of favorable court to hear the cases.

    If they don't present a suit they are at the whim of the defendants whos lawyers are undoubtable looking for the most favorable court they can find.
     
  3. Liberty Monkey

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    1000 victims suing MGM! What is outrageous is US lawsuit culture how is the hotel responsible?

    Do we not have any personal responsibility any more? It's someone else's fault for everything and we can sue them for it. US sue culture is parasitic at best.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And by the way, MGM supports this site.

    I'm sorry that you will now have to leave.

    Enjoy your travels.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    owned...At least we get to see if hes a man if his word. Im betting he keeps supporting MGM by remaining here.
     
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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    How does MGM do any support here?
     
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  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    How in hell are these victims responsible for their being shot under these circumstances?
     
  8. Liberty Monkey

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    How is the hotel responsible?
     
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    In the same manner that the hotel chain itself facilitated the incident in question. By simply being there.
     
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    Don't get your panties tied in a knot. It's nothing more than a legal maneuver. The dead and injured can't sue the shooter so they are going after the deep pockets of the hotel. All the victims have to do is establish any degree of negligence on anyone (hotel) and they can collect money. They're only trying to protect their own interest.
     
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    No hotel is responsible for the actions of a guest unless negligence or facilitation is evident. The victims are angry and rightfully so, but they have no case against the Hotel.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This reminds me of when the actors were going to move to canada if Trump was elected but never did.
     
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  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    By that token if a drunk driver runs you over you were just on the sidewalk You cons are nuts in this regard. You go on about personal responsibility a lot but what you really mean is nobody has any to anybody
     
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  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I recalll saying at the time that was not right. You don't abandon your homeland in its time of need, even if the need is from within
     
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    Aint that the truth...we all made it through obamas reign of anti American ideology.
     
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    Republicans don't run away when things don't go their way so it was a never a thing.
     
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  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I think America thrived under Obama, I'm not at all sure of how we will do under Trump
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Republicans just try to throw everybody else out once they get in charge.
     
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    Im not surprised you think that at all. Why losing all the full times jobs with bennies to create two part time jobs was a windfall for all americans
     
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  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    That was Republican business owners. And it's how Trump has given you all this "low" unemployment you praise him for.
     
  21. Liberty Monkey

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    So you're not a fan of reality then? Because America was screwed under Obama for like 6 years lol.

    He inherited it but it doesn't change the fact it was screwed!
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    They want to shop the judge, just like Dr Phil and Bull do with juries.

    Many people do still regard jury packing or shopping the judge as bordering on unethical; argue the case on its merits not on the people adjudging it they say.
     
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    But that is what the accusers are doing.

    By MGM filing a lawsuit they now also get a say in what court it ends up in.

    Its an idiotic lawsuit to begin with, a bunch of people looking for an easy handout.

    If some guy breaks into your house and crawls on your roof and starts sniping people should the victims be allowed to sue you because it was your house?
     
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    factually incorrect. Under obama manufacturing was more cost effective elsewhere, its why when you turn your apple juice over it says made in china. Trumps fair trade and ease of regulation is a job creator. Obamas plan and clinton helped China. Thats why chinas feathers are ruffled now. Does that sound like America is losing jobs when china is ruffled? Doesnt to me.
     
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    Obama did his best to fix it, and given that he had one of the most obstructionist Congresses in our history and how truly it was messed up he did a damned good job.

    In 2000 Clinton gave Bush the best economy we'd had for a long time, with the first surplus I can remember. Bush spent that in his first year then established a kleptocracy that gave us two little recessions before handing us what everybody said was the Second Great Depression in 2008. Obama headed that off and gave us the first Healthcare we'd ever had. I say he deserves lots of credit for that but I'm sure you don't, preferring a Republican who has given you and me a tax cut of a whole thousand dollars while ensuring millions for him and his friends.

    But this is always what Republicans do, they rob us blind and then hand a hollow shell back to the Democrats. Then they bitch for the next 8 years at the hardships we must suffer to repair their depredations until everybody's forgotten how much they ****ed us before and then they get control again. Whereupon they take credit for the prosperity caused by the Dem's good management and begin to rob us again. And so it goes
     

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