This is why the facts, no matter how you twist them, will not exonerate Trump

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  1. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    I guess that means that Melania could make a run for the Presidency, since another first lady of an impeached President managed to almost make it to the oval office. Of course, she doesn't qualify for the job, but Donald Trump Junior is waiting, and he seems to be a pretty honest guy, or maybe Trump's daughter could become the first female President.

    The main problem with your logic about coequal branches of government is that forcing cooperation with the house isn't co-equal. Sorry, but the house will just have to impeach without Trump participating.

    Good luck! lolololol!!!!!
     
  2. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    I read your I'll conceived post
     
  3. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Congress passes bills.
    Presidents sign them into law.
    Judges judge them.

    Congress must abide by them as well
     
  4. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    That'll show him
     
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    There's no exoneration from a rigged jury...and Moscow Mitch has promised to rig the jury
     
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    In what way? He cannot make anyone vote the way he wants.
     
  7. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You cannot even see the truth on this. Makes no sense for you to be lecturing on it.

    Wake up!
     
  8. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It does not matter either way as the fix is in and McConnell, Graham....etc...have already stated on record that they will exonerate Trump as quickly as possible. Trump will again get out of legal problems by owning the system either financially or otherwise. Unless Roberts acts like a real judge this is all but decided already and evidence is irrelevant.
     
  9. gorfias

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    He must have missed the Constitutional expert that stated that it is absolutely OK for the President to ask the courts 1st if he really has to ask how high when the House says jump.
     
  10. opion8d

    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gee,, I wonder how you missed the facts of the case.
     
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    There were seventeen errors in the FISA application. All the errors favored approval of the FISA application. I just heard Comey explain how there was no evidence that those errors were intentional.

    To simplify, each error would either favor the FISA application or oppose it. It is either one or the other. To have them all go the same way would be the same as flipping a coin seventeen times and having it come up heads all seventeen times. The chances of that happening is one in 131,072.

    Either Comey does not understand probability or he is a liar.
     
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  12. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm impressed! So you do know how the legislative process works! At a Schoolhouse Rock level, of course, but.... still noteworthy.
     
  13. squidward

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    Seems I had to remind you
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I learned very early in my adult years that when you are debating someone and they start insulting you, you have won the debate because they have nothing more meaningful to say.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I wonder how you missed the fact that the bulk of the testimony was opinion.
     
  16. garyd

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    And we can go "no you wake up' until infinity passes and it doesn't change the fact that no evidence thus far presented against Donald J Trump would pass muster in any non partisan court room in the country. IN fact most of it wouldn't even be admitted into a court room because it is hearsay.
     
  17. Frank

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    Most of the many, many former federal prosecutors DISAGREE with you in the extreme. They suggest that MOST of the guilty verdicts in extortion cases have been obtained with less and weaker evidence. THEY think that the evidence for extortion is plentiful and convincing.

    But...continue with you fantasy if it brings you peace.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, zero evidence means it is a solid case in the sufferers mind.
     
  19. Nemesis

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    I hope that you recover.

    You should buy a book about evidentiary standards to use in your next big case.
     
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  20. Nemesis

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    Absolutely true.

    If the Trumpers' distorted notions of what constitutes "evidence" were accurate, racketeers and gangster criminals could never be prosecuted.
     
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  21. garyd

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    Most would be like 51% and since most are also life long democrats I suspect a hell of a lot of bias. And their evidence wouldn't consist of well I heard someone said that or I assumed that's what was happening. Assumptions and hearsay are not evidence the are assumptions and rumors. By the way a hell of a lot of prosecutors said after the Comey white wash of Hillary that they'd love to prosecute that case.
     
  22. garyd

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    Nonsense if what you believe were true everyone but the prosecutors would be in jail.
     
  23. Nemesis

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    Oh, it will. He's going down in history as only the third President to be impeached. That's in addition to being the worst President, too.

    The man is self-dealing, ignorant and incompetent.
     
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    Yes, the former prosecutors are "democrats" in fairytale land, and that means Bonespurs is magically exonerated again.
     
  25. Hoosier8

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    Hearsay and conjecture would not be allowed in court. Hearsay requires a material fact and the dem clown shows narrative is not a material fact, it is conjecture.
     

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