To Gop and Dems...do you really think Hillary won't win in 2016?

Let's cut all the crap! Let's get past all the wrong and right! Regardless of what should or should not happen, does anybody think Hillary won't ultimately be President? IMO it's a lock! Didn't say that's what I want or don't. I just see it's a lock.

 

Depends on the opponent. Many Moderates would be happy to vote for a Moderate Republican over Hillary. Wait for the final two.

 

I just don't see it. We know how elections go.

 

It's too early. What I can say is whoever whens the Democrat primary will beat anyone in the current Republican field. That said, if Joe Biden gets some traction he can compete with Hillary. Remember Hillary was almost a shoe in back in 2007, until Obama just started going off and surpassed her.

But the current Republican field will make it easy for anyone who wins the Dem primary.

 

Maybe what you said is accurate. We will see.

 

I think Romney was 4 years too early. I think he could be serious competition against Hillary or Biden. The current field is just weak. The most normal one of the bunch is Jeb Bush and his name alone will crush his chances with independents. Maybe Christie could stand a fight, but Cruz, Trump, Paul, Walker, etc are far too fringe to compete in the general.

 

I think there is a feeling of discontent in the democratic party with a Hillary nomination, just as there was before. The question becomes will there be a viable candidate with enough presence to attract the attention of early primary voters and thus some serious donors and 'superdelegates' to jump off the bandwagon. Folks were pretty sure that Hillary had it in the bag before. I don't think dems are any more infatuated this time. I give it a 65% chance for Hillary and a 35% chance it will be someone else.

 

Hmmm. Possibly. But nobody seems to feel a republican can win. Which was really my point. I'm not taking either side but I didn't see another Dem option. If one pops up then whatever. But my point is that even republicans really don't feel their group of candidates have a chance. Which is probably why Trump is showing out because there really is no consequence.

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Hmmm. Possibly. But nobody seems to feel a republican can win. Which was really my point. I'm not taking either side but I didn't see another Dem option. If one pops up then whatever. But my point is that even republicans really don't feel their group of candidates have a chance. Which is probably why Trump is showing out because there really is no consequence.

 

Yes, Hillary might unfortunately win if the GOP candidate is Trump or some other fool. But if Hillary faces a serious opponent, she will lose.

 

No one can seriously label Walker a fringe candidate.

 

I heard the same crapola in 2008, how'd that work out? She won't even make it out of the Primaries, the nominee will be one of the two Herman Meunsters, Kerry or Gore.

 

The Dems seem to be scrambling to find an alternate already.

 

I, and most nonpartisan voters, do not see it that way, me thinks it is only wishful thinking on your part. Strange for you to make that statement while the GOP seems to be in disarray and with someone that does not have a snowballs chance in Hades of winning the GOP nomination leading the field.

 

It doesn't seem good for the gop in any fashion.

 

We shall see, there is still a long way to go, That said the longer Trumpy keeps getting the attention the less chance another candidate is going to get their own message out, sometimes the Cons are their own worst enemy and sadly they do seem capable of realizing that fact.

 

It's called an election. A lot of things can happen between now and then. That said, if Trump is in the general election (either as the Republican or as an independent), Hillary becomes our next president.

 

Does it seem like he won't be? It's a lock!!

 

It's hers to blow. Unless she comes out of her cocoon and starts swinging, she could blow it. Personally, I wouldn't be disappointed if either Sanders or Biden got the nod.

 

Oh God I hope not. If she gets the nomination I probably won't vote depending on who gets the republican nomination, which most likely won't be anyone I like either, so I probable will just end up no voting. Her cult actually scares me.

 

However, I thought the same thing in 2007....... That Hillary had it....

 

No, I don't think she will be President. Although it's highly likely that whoever wins the Democratic nomination wins the election, I don't think it will be Hillary. Her support is, and always has been, a mile wide and a centimeter deep. She is a placeholder candidate, just like she was in 2008.

 

Does anybody on the GOP side feel any kind of way that it doesn't look real good for them right now?

 

Well I don't think the GOP will win the Presidency in 2016, but it has nothing to do with Hillary. On the ticket, off the ticket, I thinks the Dems still win.

 

Yup. It's sad that it's over a year and a half to go.

 

Well look at the 2015 Congressional approval rating...Do YOU think people want more of the same families in office, or a change?

I don't think Bush or Clinton have a chance. Their families have been looking over America while it has gone down hill. Why would America want more?

Many Americans are ready for an overhaul and some common sense instead of the repeated "I'll be the perfect candidate" speech. Lot's of people will gravitate to Politicians with NEW idea's.

But this is just an opinion based post.