Top 10 Liberal Hypocrisies.....

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  1. Libhater

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    Contradiction #1: Pro-Abortion vs. Anti-Capital Punishment

    Liberals support the killing of unborn children in the name of convenience, choice, etc. These children have committed no crimes; however, if that child survives abortion and grows up to commit murder later in life, a Liberal will scream "injustice" if that person is sentenced to death.

    Contradiction #2: Pro-Technology vs. Anti-Free Market

    I love Apple products. I think Steve Jobs was a genius. I have a MacBook Pro, an iPad, and an iPhone 4s. Many liberals (especially Occupiers) love Apple products too. As a Capitalist, I am consistent in purchasing Apple products. They are not. They build web sites to promote their socialist causes while using software and technology that is only made possible in a free market enviornment. Apple products would not (and could not) have been created in a socialist nation. There's no way liberals could fight capitalism without the very tools capitalism provides. Where would the liberal website moveon.org be if it hadn't been for capitalism?

    Contradiction #3: Pro Homosexual vs Pro Muslim

    Muslims want to kill homosexuals. Yet, Liberals promote the Homosexual agenda and Shariah Law. If the Muslims take over the United States, they will start by expunging the land of Homosexuals and Liberals. (Please see my conclusion to expalin why Liberals really hold to these two contradictory positions.)

    Contradiction #4: Pro-Darwinian Evolution vs. Anti-Human Domination

    Most liberals believe in Darwinian evolution, as opposed to special Creation by God. They believe that all species arose naturally through a concept known as "survival of the fittest." The weak die out and the strong survive.Yet, Liberals spend so much time (and other people's money) fighting to protect endangered species, rare ecosystems, wet lands, etc. Isn't this incredibly inconsistent? After all, evolutionists believe many species died out over millions of years because of natural selection. As consistent evolutionists, shouldn't they be happy that humans are now dominating the planet and all sub-species? Incidentally, as a Christian, I believe God requires us to be good stewards of the environment (not tree huggers). But I can hold my position consistently.

    Contradiction #5: Christianity vs. All Other Religions

    Liberals want religious freedom for all religions except Christianity. "Take down that cross...No nativiity scenes on public property...No prayer at high school graduation ceremonies!" The list goes on, all in the name of "tolerance." Isn't it ironic that Christianity is the only religion that tolerates others? Our Lord Jesus Christ taught us to love our enemies, whereas the Koran teaches Muslims to kill the infidels!

    Contradiction #6: Pro-Education vs. Anti-School Choice

    Liberals like to pride themselves on being intellectuals and supporters of education. They claim Conservatives and Republicans are against education. Laughable. If education is so important then why do liberals force everyo pay taxes to support thefailing public education system when private schooling is so much more effective? The answer is easy. They can only brainwash our children into becoming atheists and socialists in the public school setting.

    Contradiction #7: Hateful vs. Anti-Hate

    Liberals claim that anyone who disagrees withtheir lifestyle is promoting "hate."Do you want hate? Just read for yourself the hate-filled comments on the first episode of PolitiChicks.TV--discussing homosexuality in America. Not one hateful word was said against homosexuals on this show. In fact, Victoria Jackson stated, "I love gays!" The only hate I found was from those who were commenting. 99% of all hate is spewed from the Left.

    Contradiction #8: Pro-Women vs. Anti-Sarah Palin

    The left says they're for women's rights. So why did they attempt to destroy Sarah Palin and her family in 2008 when she was chosen as John McCain's running mate? Liberals undermine marriage, the very institution where women are honored by fidelity and womanhood is celebrated by Conservative women.

    Contradiction #9: Pro-Jew vs. Anti-Israel

    Liberals say they are pro-Jew. So, why do they hate the nation of Israel? Why are so many Jews supporters of the Democratic Party? This is perhaps one of the most mind-boggling liberal contradictions.

    Contradiction #10: Racism

    If Liberals aren't racist, why do they evaluate and categorize everyone by the color of their skin. Liberals get angry when blacks leave the Democrat palntation and achieve the American dream by becoming self sufficient capitalists, entrepreneurs and Conservatives, and often call them Uncle Toms' for doing so. Liberals continue to promote abortion knowing well that far more blacks are killed by abortion than Whites. Why continue to promote social programs that enslave blacks at poverty level?

    CONCLUSION: There are many more liberal contradictions which could be listed. Why do most all Liberal beliefs appear to be self-contradictory? The answer is simple: All liberal positions are anti God to the core. Islam and homosexuality are not supported by the Bible. The Bible promotes responsibility, private property, and an ultimate standard for right and wrong--all of which comes right out of the liberal handbook.
     
  2. kilgram

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    Falacies all and false interpretations. Maybe except the one of Apple, that there is many hipocresy. The rest are nonsense.
     
  3. freakonature

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    #1 should be .... Anti-big business vs. Pro big government
     
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    Israel != All of Judaism. It's a really stupid assertion. Just because you don't agree with Israel doesn't mean you hate Jews. I'd ask my friends Jewish girlfriend to post this information again to reinforce this point but she'd just tell me that what you're saying is too stupid to address. As for me, I'm used to countering stupid assertions on this forum.

    As for Apple I have a similar view with them. I don't understand the people who buy Apple products yelling about how they're "against the big corporations" and being "rebels" by not buying a the same system as every else. The problem is that Apple has a very tight grip on their systems. They control who can make what, what software comes onto their systems etc. You can't release software for the iPhone without Apple giving you the OK. They are the "big evil corporation" and appleheads just for whatever reason won't admit it. They charge more, they control who can write for them, and they control what you can do with your property.
     
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    11. Pro free speech vs. political correctness.

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  6. kilgram

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    Hate speech is free speech? Even I consider that you must be able to say all your hatred nonsense against social groups and retrate yourself as a fascist.

    This you* is a generalization and is not oriented to any particular person. I didn't know any better form to express this idea.
     
  7. Swensson

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    Look, I'll be the first to admit that my views, which you would see as left, has some problems in practice. However, if you believe that these are problems, then you have completely misunderstood most of what liberals stand for. To some extent, I agree with #2, as some others have pointed out, but how are people supposed to argue with you when you don't even understand what you are opposing?

    Very few of the above are contradictions. Some are based on basic values that not everyone might share, and I'm sure people have told you and will continue to tell you why that is so, but to just claim they're contradictions with no understanding just breaks your credibility down.
     
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    What credibility?
     
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    I'll give anyone the benefit of a doubt. The moment they tell me they think I dislike Sarah Palin because she is a woman or that I want to allow people to kill homosexuals, they lose that.
     
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    Up to a certain point, I don't consider a fetus an individual. I'm sure individuality is gained at somepoint long before birth, and that's why I only support legal first trimester abortions. A person on death row is an individual. Capital punishment itself is hypocrisy. What I don't understand is why conservatives, who hate the government and don't want them to have the power to do anything, would be ok with the government having the power to decide who lives and dies. That's also kind of hypocritical

    We dont have a pureley free market. Steve jobs was able to create those things under a mixed market.


    I'm not "pro" either of those things. I'm pro human rights, and think that people should be whatever makes them happy. The notion that liberals are "pro sharia law" is made up and completely untrue. People should be allowed to believe in islam. It doesnt mean they should he allowed to break the law. In the case where we rail against the anti shariah bills people propose, we arent doing it because we want shariah law. We are doing it because its redundant and a waste of government time.

    I don't understand how this could be seen as hypocrisy. Having the ability to destroy ever species doesnt mean we should. Empathy is an important part of being human. The protection of the ecosystem is in our best interests.

    Evolution is a real phenomenon, get over it.

    Something like 85% of the country belongs to some sort of Christian denomination, and considering the other 15 percent are spread throughout the political spectrum, I think its safe to say that most liberals are christians. The difference is that liberal christians aren't so sensitive about it that they see any attempt to be respectful of others as an attack on christianity. The conservatives talk more about the "war on christianity" than anyone else does.

    Your paragraph was arguing two different subjects. Liberals don't think private schhols shouldn't exist. We are simply realistic enough to know that not everyone can take advantage of them. Public schools are an absolute necessity unless you want all poor people to be illiterate. You think they arent productive now? Get rid of their opportunity to get an education and then see how unproductive they are.


    A person can say they "love gays" all they want, but if they are still using a persons personal life, who isn't hurting anyone or breaking any laws, to deny them the same liberties the rest of us enjoy while simataneously calling them an abomination.... then that person is being hateful. Sorry.


    So unles you hate women, you have to support sarah palin? Please. Liberals dont dislike palin because shes a woman, they dislike her because shes an incompotent fool and a quitter.

    Liberals are split on the israel issue. Regardless, ill give you more or less the same response I gave to the last "hypocrisy". Israel is a country, Judaism is a religion. I support peoples rights to be jewish. In fact my experience with american Jews has generally been better then that of american any other religion. None of that means i have to accept the practices of a GOVERNMENT by default.

    By your logic, unless you support everything the US government does (which is a Christian majority country) then your anti-Christian.

    I don't evaluate everyone by he color of their skin, and ive never used the term uncle tom. Of course democrats would be upset when anyone leaves their party (black or not) because it means thy have less voting power. The only people I've ever heard express displeasure with balck people specifically leaving the democratic part, and using the term uncle tom, have been other black democrats. So unless they are black people who are racist against black people, your argument fails.

    If every white liberal ere racist against blacks, wouldn't they want them to be uncle toms?

    Hats not to say there arent racist liberals. There's racist anything.

    All of your hypocrisies were fails, so your conclusion is irrelevant.
     
  11. youenjoyme420

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    The autocorrect on this sucks, I apologize for the confusing errors in spelling.
     
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    1; Liberals, overall, are not always pro abortion. I, myself, beleive that abortion should be illegal except in cases of rape and if the mother'
    s life is in dangered by the pregnancy. A woman who does not want a child, but is too stupid to use protection, should not be allowed to get an abortion. There are millions families in the world that would adopt a newborn.

    2; You seem tyo think that the free market created the internet, but the internet was created to be a mainly a free service that could be used for commercial means. I have my own internet source, for example. I get it completely free and use Microsoft explorer to get online I do not pay anything, nor do I have a have a band width limit. The free market came into play because private companies bought up most of the band width for the network and sell it to people, and through companies like Apple and Microsoft who designed and created web serfing programs.

    Also most liberals are not against the free market as a whole. We are against unregulated free market that allows companies to (*)(*)(*)(*) over consumers.

    3; Not all Muslims are like that. I am friend with several of them. They do not want to hurt or kill anyone, unless they are attacked.....Bigots like you, who generalize about entire groups of people based on your narrow minded, ignorant views are the problem....not Muslims....

    I do not hate gays or Muslims, I hate individuals within both groups, however, based on my interactions with them, and opinions about the character of each person.

    4; We want to protect endangered species because 90% of them are endangered by the actions of humans and not natural selection. Evolution and the survivor of the fittest can't be taken into account when you talk about prblems CAUSES COMPLETELY BY HUMANS.

    5; I beleive that all people should be free to practice, or not practice whatever religion they want. No laws should be based on any religon, period, but on common ethical and moral sense. You do not need a religion to know it's wrong to steal and murder.....Treat all religins equallity but keep their morals completely out of all state affairs.

    6; Most conservatives talk about the evils of public school and how all schools should be private. The problem with that is that private schools do not tend to be very exclusive and not allow everyone in. So, what conservatives are really saying is, "give education to those who can afford private schools, and (*)(*)(*)(*) anyone who can't."

    Public schools are ran by the state. The state can not teach religion. If you want your kids to learn religion from school than send them to a private school and shut the (*)(*)(*)(*) up.

    7; Hate is a typical human emotion. Liberals and conservatives alike feel it. Trying to say one group is hipocritical becase if it but the other is not is stupid.

    8; Sarah Palin is not fit to be president. The fact that she is a woman is beside the point. The idea that saying something bad about her, means you hate all woman is just more prove that you are an ignorant person.

    9; The idea that a people and a nation are the same thing is just wrong. Israel, as a country, is a terrorist nation and has been responible for the deaths of many innocent people and has stolen the land of countless others so that Israeli citizens can "settle" it. That does not mean that I feel any anomosity towards the people of Israel or jews in general.

    10; Racism is a poison throughout all humanity....It crosses the political spectrum andmany other boundries......Not a single person is innocent of it.

    Name one normal person that see's a merixan talking around in the downtown area of a city wearing a blue or red bandana and does not cross the street because they assume that person is a gang member. They have no proof, they just do it because they made assumptions about the person before talking to them. It is human nature to hate and fear anyone and anything that is different. I, and many others try to judge people based on their actions and their character instead of the color of their skin. But, even the best of us can succumb to fear.
     
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    You can never understand the "logic" of liberals, probably no one with sound mind, maybe psychiatrists only.
     
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    You cannot have free speech without all speech being free. To put limits on it means it is not free. Sorry, conservatives put up with the hate speach that comes from msnbc and liberals, so if you find some from a conservative, ****.
     
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    ****? What means?

    And hate speech from liberals? I don't know... But racism, xenophobism, homophobism are the order of day from conservatism.
     
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    lol - "hate speech"??? Who said anything about hate speech?

    How about this - does the following exemplify the prevention of hate speech? Consider a superior officer in the military that DOES NOT confront a subordinate officer regarding something as serious as communicating with terrorists organizations in Yemen (among other incidents), just because the subordinate happens to be a Muslim and the military's official PC handbook says, "Hands off!" when it comes to Muslims. Let's see, how many innocents died in that avoidable tragedy?

    Gee, thank you Political Correctness for saving us all from "hate speech"! But it's really too bad that while saving us from the dreaded hate speech, you have no problem at all in enabling people that run on hatred to bring their mental derangement to fruition.
     
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    What the heck? What nonsense are you saying? What relation has what we are discussing with this militaristic crap?
    Even you don't know what the hell means hate speech. Hate speech is say that all muslims are terrorist, hate speech or acts is ask to persecute people just for their beliefs or race or whatever. Hate speech is say that people that is different to you have not the same rights, and even worse things, for example homosexuals. All that crap that usually conservative cry over the world, intoxicating the world with their intolerance and ignorance.
     
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    lol - you're funny! "All that crap that usually conservative cry over the world, intoxicating the world with their intolerance and ignorance." hehe. Intoxicating the world... heh - and I'm one talking nonsense... :mrgreen:
     
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    You have no idea what you're talking about. You completely don't understand the thought processes of probably anyone. You have no ability to think critically. The way you get from A to B isn't logic but some... I have no idea what it is. It's just plain stupid.


    For example... I'll play devil's advocate (since I'm personally anti-abortion).

    In Pro-choice vs Anti-Capital Punishment you seem to completely ignore the fact that there's a common belief that many people hold that fetuses aren't alive or conscious. So for people who believe that you can't compare killing something not a live to killing something alive.
    There's also the issue that Abortion is not about just one life, but two. The ideals of pro-choice people often value the freedom of choice more than a single life. So where there's two lives the choice takes precedence. With capital punishment there are not two lives at stake. Just the one.

    There are a ton of other factors. And I've simplified things. The point is, you're clueless. You need to develop the ability to see outside of your limited world view. I'm not saying you have to agree with other world views. Just that you should attempt to understand how they came to be. The world isn't as simple as your simple mind.

    I'd highly suggest taking some good Cultural Anthropology classes as well as some Critical Thinking classes. You are in desperate need of them.
     
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    You know. I didn't have so bad opinion of conservative people until I arrived to this forum. That I saw that most of them were a bunch of radical fascists(yeah fascists, authoritarian, ultrarreligious equivalent to their "counterpart" islamics, racists, xenophobists...) So yes the conservative ideology is so close to the fascism, or better said is fascism in the closet that the word intoxicating is well chosen.
     
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    Yeah - OK... lol
     
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    And how is this not a hypocrisy for conservatives? I don't know if I am against corporal punishment, but only for particularly heinous crimes that have been proven beyond a doubt.

    Decent point, but we don't live in a free market society, so these things are "possible" through the current system. Technology is just a tool, and the internet by its very nature is communal and democratic.

    What liberals promote sharia law? The majority of American Muslims I have ever met are normal Americans who have the right to their own religious beliefs. It is in the first amendment. I would say this is more a hypocrisy by conservatives who claim to be constitutionalists but want to limit the freedom of religion. Explain to me how a minority group of about 1% of the population from largely inferior countries (technologically speaking) is going to "take us over"?

    Huge amounts of nonsense here.

    1) Evolution is not "survival of the fittest" it is a system of biological adaption to environment. Weakness and strength have nothing to do with evolution. If it did, there would still be mega-fauna.
    2) Human industry killing off endangered species and destroying irreplaceable eco-systems has nothing to do with evolution. That is anthropogenic mass extinction. Your idea that we should be "happy" about making the earth uninhabitable to all living things (ourselves as humans included) is absurd.
    3) Evolution is not a religion. It is a realization.

    Forcing your beliefs on others with public money is not freedom of religion, it is trying to force others to believe the same as you. Christians are given every right to hold congregation, preach to people on the streets, operate charities, own their own media stations, etc etc. Christianity isn't the only religion that teaches people to tolerate others, you should read more about other religions if that is what you truly think.

    Because they want education to be available for everyone instead of only rich Christians. Although it has to be agreed that public education needs deep reform.

    Yes, people dislike their political opponents. There is a difference in disliking someone for their personal character, and disliking them for things they can't change.

    So if they disagree with any woman they are anti-woman? That is absurd. And I know the next, if they disagree with Cain they are racists as well. Even though they support female and minority politicians, which renders these arguments moot.

    Because Israel is a parasitic war state that is more trouble than it's worth. It has nothing to do with their ethnicity.

    Where are your statistics that more blacks die? If they are racist why did they elect a black man, the first time ever, to the highest office in the US?


    Actually Jesus and his disciples were communists if anything. The gospels are full of sayings about how evil money is and how you should freely give your neighbor everything, should forgive everyone, how it is near impossible for the rich to get into heaven and that you should be a total pacifist. Everything seems contradictory to you because you are using straw-man arguments.
     
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    I know that you don't like the reality. But you can't negate that many opinions of conservative are sexists, considering the woman as inferior and must be working in the kitchen(go to the section of woman rights, is really interesting), or go to any area where is clear the fascism ideology behind their ideas. Or their radical christianism, coming from the puritanism. Yes, and that opinions are "tolerated" just because are said by christians, but I would like to see all that conservative if every racist, sexist,... crap said by many of them was a muslim.

    Conservatism want or not, is hipocresy.

    How many conservatist talk about freedom but they would ban tits on tv, or whatever related to sex, investigation in mother cells... How many are against state, but later want a really militaristic state(pure authoritarism)? And later come to talk about the hipocresy of the liberals(that yes they are many times), but well conservatism is the summum of hipocresy.

    Yes, I am so tired... I only see fascism in the closet for part of the conservatists. They try to cover their fascism, and many times you can see how their fascism is shown. And most of the leaders of the main conservatist party in USA, Republicans are fascist.
     
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    You say "certain point".

    At what point are you certain?
     
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    There's no scientific proof of when a fetus develops a consciousness or anything like that. Nothing but theories and opinions as it's currently not provable either way.
     

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