Tripolar world. USA, European Union, China

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  1. Interaktive

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    Tripolar world. USA, European Union, China
    do you agree
    victory of Ukraine soon
    these 3 countries can provide it
     
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    China....?
     
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    already China is influential, not Russia
     
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    at what?
     
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    for this idea, I will fight with Moscow all my life, because Moscow has done evil to Ukrainians
    read the ratings about China and Xi Jinping
     
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    they have.... and I'm reasonably convinced that Ukraine will come out of this better than Russia will....

    ...China is a house of cards built on the same corrupt systems as Russia....both are dictorships...and both suffer from image over reality and all the other guff that goes with it.
    ...China is slowly imploding and Xi knows it, but is too far into the system to be able to do anything about it. Thus, he makes speeches and has the CHina image machine manufacture narratives, just like Putin, squealing and moaning at the west because it makes him look good at home.
    ...China is about keeping 2 billion people in their place...nothing else...and with the BRI backfiring..and the likes of Evergrande and Country Garden heading for bankrupcy, the unimaginable off-balance sheet debts China has underwritten etc etc. there are some massive....huge...structural issues going to happen in China so what do you do...you change the message....make it about the west and Tiawan...

    I imagine the meeting between Putin and Xi in CHina yesterday went something like
    Xi: "Putin, you own me a shed load of money thet we gave you under the BRI programme why aren't you making re-payments??
    Putin: "Master, we don't have your money just yet....we didn't manage to get all of Ukraine....the bits we do have aren't worth much....
    Xi: "I want my money you stupid cockwomble!!!!"
    Putin: "how about some more oil....??"
    Xi: "Bog off you daft prick...I'm getting that from Saudi and Iraq now....I WANT MY F**KING MONEY!!!!"
     
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    The muslim view is quite different. Their view is "BELIEVERS" and "INFIDELS". And killing infidels is key getting to PARADISE. This life is just a "foyer" to PARADISE... nothing more.
     
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    Muslims have no logic
    all live according to the secular international Gregorian calendar
     
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    Muslims are very devout and do what the Koran says. What does that have to do with a calendar?
     
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    bit dramatic don't you think...most people who follow or don't follow a faith simply go about their daily lives trying to make a decent living and bringing up their famlies....99.9% of the planets population are too busy living their lives to be consumed by radical dogma...
     
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    You obviously have absolutely no experience with Radical Islam. That's not how they operate at all. Live in places like Iraq, Kuwait, and such for a few years. Its nothing like the western world at all.
     
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    so....likewise ALL Christians are very devout and do what the Bibles says is that right?.....hmmmmmm.....I wonder what the church attendance in the UK is...let's see...2%...something like that?
     
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    is that right...and you know that because....??
     
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    Exactly. Radical Muslims are totally different than westerners.
     
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    because there is a Catholic Gregorian calendar, and there is a Muslim one
    no one needs the Muslim one, and everyone needs the Catholic Gregorian one
    you don't know the history of religion that's why you read the quran
     
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    and...what's your point?
     
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    don't forget the North Korean one!!
     
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    Living for years in places like Iraq, Kuwait, and Israel. In my first year in Iraq I was a trainer for the NEW Iraqi Army. I was assigned an I-T (Interpreter-Translator). We were essentially "joined at the hip" and he taught me a lot about Radical Islam He was a very intelligent guy and a recent graduate of Baghdad University. He helped us because his fiance was abducted, raped and killed by Sadaam's two sons Uday and Qusay. I also talked extensively with our traineesduring training and in the barracks. LOTS of interesting insights.
     
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    why can't they have their own callendar...the "Catholic" callendar was of Greco/Roman origin and based around Roman festivals
     
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    Algebra was invented by Arabs. I'm an engineer and use it a lot. That doesn't mean I have any affinity at all for being Arab or muslim.
     
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    I'm sure radical islam is quite awkward to understand but it's not the basis of every muslim's existance....if as you say you've been to these places then you'll know that they aren't ALL "Radical Muslims" they're just people following a faith to some lesser or greater degree
     
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    Anyone can use any calendar they want. But you'd use a lot of money making business appointments on the
    Third Day of Ramadan" rather than 6nSeptenber... LOL
     
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    Many, many are. Palestine more than most. Heck, they ELECTED the terrorist Hamas to RULE THEM.
     
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    if all you want to do is take extremes and use those as norms then fine go for it. We can all descend into the world of cliche and trope and get lost in fantasy pretending its reality when its' not
    I could take those cockwombles in Amerca...what are they called...the Westchester Baptist Church?? Whatever they're called...anyway I could take them as representative of all Christians and witter on about how f**ked up Christianity is based on them as my default position...which would be banal in the extreme!!!
     
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    Hamas IS, BY DEFINITION, EXTREME. You think beheading babies and raping grandmas is NOT extreme? Wow.
    There are a few extremists' everywhere/ But Palestine has enough to launch a large scale national war.
     

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