Tripolar world. USA, European Union, China

...when in Rome...I think the idea is people adjust when they're in a foreign country.....bit like not everyone speaks English

 

...so what...are you saying Hamas are representative of all muslims....no...of course they're not.....the IRA isn't representative of all Irish....Baader-Meinhof weren't representative of all Germans....perspective my lad...perspective

 

I've spent about ten years of my adult life in Europe. I found that enough folks spoke English for me to get by. I did have to research "Auspuff Topf" though, when I needed to get my "muffler" replaced.

 

try Gegenseitige Selbstbefriedigung....

 

i've been here a bit longer.....

 

Hamas is just one of the many Iran sponsored groups that make up a HELLUVA LOT BIGGER group than the IRA. And IRA was Irish... one country. Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, etc are all over the world.

Anecdote: When I Commanded a US Artillery Battery in Germany, some of my guys were caught in the Frankfurt train station (Bahnhof) with illegal drugs. The Baader-Meinhof Gang was in the news then. My doper guys were popularly labeled the "Minor Bahnhof Gang".

 

I was 50 before I'd lived anywhere for more than 3 years after college. Defense does that.

 

oh yeah...had some experience of them....they were pretty active in Germany back in the day

 

yup military does that to you...you just get settled and then some bugger thinks it a great idea to post you back from where you just came....

 

IRA? In Germany? LOLOL...m sorry... you'd need to prove that. We have LOTS of Irish and descendents in America. They passed the plate a lot for contributions but that was about it it. Why in hell would the IRA do anything but that IN GERMANY? And with fewer Irishmen, probably not o lot of that in Germany.

 

When you join the American Army you expect to be reassigned every three years... with some one year tours in Korea and some places thrown in. Its what our military does.

 

no my friend you just look it up...I know I was there....laugh all you f**king well like...in the end we had to change the BFG plates on our cars because of IRA attacks on squaddies...they also attacked guys in Holland and Belgium

 

....so are you really trying to tell me that you were serving in the US military.... in Germany FFS.... and had no idea of what was going on around you...you actually have no clue what NORAID was and what it did with its money!!!
....Seriously!!!???

I mean....jeeezuz....you go on about Hamas and all the radical this and radical that......are you saying that you were actually there and watching these NORAID wankers passing around the plate for contributions....have I got that right!!???

 

The IRA went to Germany to secure independence for Northern Ireland? Ok... ok... how many IRA folks went to Sri Lanka to secure Northern Ireland independence? Or Bolivia? Do you have any data on that? And why? Does Germany, Sri Lanka or Bolivia have large Irish populations that could contribute? Perhaps a lot of Germans, angry about Northern Ireland could be recruited to fight? Is that REALLY a fertile ground for recruits?

 

seriously....that's you reply.......excellent......

so that'll be yes then.....

 

No, its not my reply. Children say "that's it... I won". It doesn't do much for your credibility.

HERE is my response:

And when I searched the net for some reference for a German branch of NORAID.. I found NOTHING. It was founded by Americans you know. I found NOTHING about Germany. I do remember the Baader Meinhof Gang, though, But they weren't Irish. I remember sitting in a bar near Columbia University in Manhattan, New York City many years ago where they passsed the hat for IRA contributions, but that's about it. If you have some NORAID link to Germany... let internet folks know. There's nothing there... although I wouldn't be surprised if some Irish American vacationer passed the hat in a Gasthaus somewhere at some point.

The IRA was bad, BTW, and I talked to a Sergeant Major in the British Army of the Rhein that had served in Northern Ireland who told me how the IRA attacked the Brits there. One story was about how they would booby trap the back door of a house so that as the Brits swept through from the front the rear, as their tactics decreed, the house would be full of Brits when the explosion occurred,

But to give the devil his due, I never heard of the IRA beheading babies, burning them alive or raping grandmas.

 

huh.....!!??.....I mean you must know what NORAID was surely!? You said you knew people who donated to them FFS!!??

Long and short of it is that you won't find a "branch" of NORAID in anywhere but the US, it was based out of Boston, Mass. It was responsible for the collection of money throughout the US usually from the Irish dispora or people that thought they were of Irish descent or just plain nutjobs and of course politicians and corrup officials as well as plain old fashion US gangsters...most of the cement companies in Boston run by the Irish gave to NORAID or bought guns and ammo for them.....anyway.....that money was then distributed to certain people within the IRA and Sinn Fein. The IRA used that money to purchase weapons/ammo/explosives and consumables, training at various camps located mainly in North Africa/USSR/Bulgaria and infrastructure etc. Terrorist operations were usually planned, funded and supplied in Northern Ireland/London but carried out in Northern Ireland, mainland UK and later in Europe...which I think you've now figured out.

Well....you better do a bit more research I suppose.
The IRA used children usually girls of between 4-6 to move explosives and ammo around the housing estates in Londonderry and Belfast etc etc...they put them in baby prams....and if they got caught they got "punished".
The IRA blew up shopping centers and pubs and clubs and residential streets killing anyone that was there...men women children....they didn't care...the youngest victim of the Omagh Bombing was an 18 month old baby, I don't know if she was beheaded or what her injuries were...it was just straight forward carnage..29 dead 220 injured.
The IRA existed within its community based on the concept of fear...they were plain and simply thugs...gangster that made a lot of money from protection rackets and theft and corruption....and this was propped up by Sinn Fein and some pretty nasty people that made sure that nobody snitched on them. Kneecapping was the favorite then gang rapes of wives in front of their husbands was another and for repeat offenders their kids were maimed or killed or they simply disappeared.
If you think that the IRA and Hamas are world's apart in the execution of the art of terrorism..... then mate....you really have had a sheltered life...the IRA is one of the oldest active terrorist organisations in the world. They have for decades and decades been actively interacting with other terrorist organisations around the world.

Getting bored with this now...cheers

 

Using kids to push baby carries is the equivalent of beheading them and burning them alive? Really? Ok... if you say so.
The old IRA did a lot of bad things, A lot of people were killed. But if you think that people dying in a mall from a terrorist bomb is the equivalent of intentionally walking into private home... beheading the children... burning the family alive.. TARGETING THEM SPECIFICALLY... then let's just agree to disagree. We're spinning our wheels.

And, again, please cite a reference for IRA activity in Germany.

 

you look it up yourself I'm not your f**king mother...

Mate, are you sure you were in the military...????....in Germany...when was that....from and to.....and where

 

YOOU SAID IT... YOU PROVE IT. YOU said there was IRA action in Germany. Its not up to ME to research your lies. PROVE WHAT YOU SAY. YOU said it... YOU prove it. Or maybe you can't?

I was in Babenhausen (2/5 FA 1979-1982)... all over Germany in the MILES AGES II NETT (New Equipment Training Team) 1984-1985)... Hohenfels 19888-1989 and regularly traveled in Germany as a civilian after I left active duty, mainly at Hohenfels, Grafenwohr, Wildflecken, and Heidelberg.

 

...if you haven't the ability to do a search.....then learn.....treat this a voyage of discover....

 

If yoiu can't back up what you say with proof... don't be surprised when no one believes you. Do your own homework. YOUR responsibility... not ours.

 

I am sorry buddy, but when you were the first time in Schermany 1979, there was no Bader Meinhof Gang.

 

I didn't say there was.... I didn't keep a log. I just knew they were in the news sometime I was there. It wasn't the most important thing going on in my life... LOL.. as it apparently was in yours.

 

Ahem, Meinhof killed herself in prison, 1976 and the rest of her group got live in prison in 1977. You showed up 2 years late for that outfit.
I was SF, Bundeswehr and anti terrorism and terrorism was part of our agenda.
Scoti is right RAF and the IRA worked very close together, in Germany, too.
Both outfits got training in PLO camps in Libia, they knew each other rather well.