Trump: a unique threat to American democracy

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  1. alan78

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    In the opinion piece below, the WP editorial board expresses it's concern over Trump.
    IMHO, they've nailed the issue.

    Quote from link below:
    Donald Trump is a unique threat to American democracy
    DONALD J. TRUMP, until now a Republican problem, this week became a challenge the nation must confront and overcome. The real estate tycoon is uniquely unqualified to serve as president, in experience and temperament. He is mounting a campaign of snarl and sneer, not substance. To the extent he has views, they are wrong in their diagnosis of America’s problems and dangerous in their proposed solutions. Mr. Trump’s politics of denigration and division could strain the bonds that have held a diverse nation together. His contempt for constitutional norms might reveal the nation’s two-century-old experiment in checks and balances to be more fragile than we knew.

    Any one of these characteristics would be disqualifying; together, they make Mr. Trump a peril. We recognize that this is not the usual moment to make such a statement. In an ordinary election year, we would acknowledge the Republican nominee, move on to the Democratic convention and spend the following months, like other voters, evaluating the candidates’ performance in debates, on the stump and in position papers. This year we will follow the campaign as always, offering honest views on all the candidates. But we cannot salute the Republican nominee or pretend that we might endorse him this fall. A Trump presidency would be dangerous for the nation and the world.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d823cc-4f4f-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    would be interesting if this writer supports HITLERY for president. since this quote so very much applies to her as well.
    A Trump presidency would be dangerous for the nation and the world.

    If he doesnt say that about her as well,then that is biased reporting by him since it is common knowledge another Clinton in office is even more dangerous for the nation and the world.
     
  3. alan78

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    Clinton is a career politician. Trump is a career salesman. Clinton won't violate the constitution or the bill of rights, as Trump may well do.

    At first, Trump was a fool and a temporary diversion into crazy land. Now Trump has become scary, because in the unlikely event he becomes President, we don't know what nation he will declare war on or what Americans he will try to put into concentration camps.

    When the quote above says that Trump might test the balance of powers in the US government, they are absolutely right.
     
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    Here’s an extraordinary GOP resignation letter from a lifelong Republican



    http://usuncut.com/politics/gop-resignation-letter/



    York Township Republican committeeman Chris Ladd just posted an open resignation letter to the GOP that has gone viral, in which Ladd says his conscience won’t allow him to be associated with the party of Donald Trump.

    In his now-ironically named blog GOPLifer, which features a tagline that says “Because leaving isn’t exactly an option,” Ladd posted a detailed account about how leaving had become his only option.

    Ladd began by acknowledging that compromise is essential in politics, saying

    “We come together in political parties to magnify our influence. An organized representative institution can give weight to our will in ways we could not accomplish on our own. Working with others gives us power, but at the cost of constant, calculated compromise. No two people will agree on everything. There is no moral purity in politics.”

    After describing his 30-year loyalty to the GOP, Ladd then writes of his sad realization that the temptation to fall in line is inconsistent with his own morality.

    “With three decades invested in the Republican Party, there is a powerful temptation to shrug and soldier on. Despite the bold rhetoric, we all know Trump will lose. Why throw away a great personal investment over one bad nominee? Trump is not merely a poor candidate, but an indictment of our character. Preserving a party is not a morally defensible goal if that party has lost its legitimacy.”

    In a particularly damning passage, he says the following of Trump:

    From his fairy-tale wall to his schoolyard bullying and his flirtation with violent racists, Donald Trump offers America a singular narrative – a tale of cowards. Fearful people, convinced of our inadequacy, trembling before a world alight with imaginary threats, crave a demagogue. Neither party has ever elevated to this level a more toxic figure, one that calls forth the darkest elements of our national character.

    Ladd then declared his intention to leave the Republican party forever:

    “I will not contribute my name, my work, or my character to an utterly indefensible cause. No sensible adult demands moral purity from a political party, but conscience is meaningless without constraints. A party willing to lend its collective capital to Donald Trump has entered a compromise beyond any credible threshold of legitimacy. There is no redemption in being one of the “good Nazis.”

    Ladd finishes his letter by resigning from his position as a committeeman and formally severing ties with the GOP.







    This is something every principled conservative should consider.
     
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    We're watching the making of a dictator.. Trump is a sociopath.. Why aren't his followers seeing it?
     
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    Please! When did Clinton ever suggest a "religious test" as a prerequisite for entering this country?
    That should would unilaterally abandon our NATO allies?
    Carpet bombing?

    This is not a man used to governing. He is used to being "The Boss" and walking away from his mistakes in Bankruptcy court.
     
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    Yep, breaking news. The party elites, the ruling classes, the establishment and the subservient media hate Trump.... They love $20 trillion debt, outsourcing, the skyrocketing gap between their wealth and the rest of the country and their gated communities, serviced but cheap illegal immigrants though.
     
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    Because they are looking in a magic mirror.
     
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    you prefer political dynasties by someone that has demonstrated incompetence such a she displayed with her actions and inaction a SOS. I prefer an unknown over proven incompetence and evil
     
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    ... and having the taxpayers subsidize him
     
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    Trump is not an unknown.

    Anyone who can call him an unknown because they didn't much about him, wasn't paying attentio n.

    Trump's long history of bombast,braggadocio, and bad faith dealing goes back 30 years.

    For a year now, this man child has bellowed, threatened and lied his way through.

    Anyone who don't know who this man is by now, is either a fool or a useful idiot
     
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    Trump is a real threat to American Socialism [endorsed by Obama, Clinton and their Democrat buddies], not to American democracy ... and to say all US are a Republic [as for I know] so democracy is a method, not a system.
     
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    Clinton is the sociopath. How else to characterize "We came, we saw, he died hah-hahaha!!!"?
     
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    Trump is a fundamental threat to democracy and to the stability of the entire planet.
     
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    This is the heart of the problem with Trump. He continuously misidentifies problems and then proposes solutions that are either unworkable, unconstitutional or wouldn't work even if he had correctly identified the problem.

    For example he's going on and on about terrorists. Since 9/11 only 94 Americans have been killed in Jihadist attacks. His solution, to ban all Muslims, is unconstitutional and even if it was implemented would not have prevented most attacks. The issue he identified isn't a big risk, the solutions to fix it can't be done and would not work.

    He's also talking about the murder rate in the US a lot. The US murder rate is at it's lowest point since the 1950s. I don't know if he's even articulated a solution for this one. So he's vague about solving a problem that seems to be improving of its own volition.

    His other issue is ISIS. This group is being destroyed by a combination of air strikes and ground forces. The solution he talked about on 60 Minutes last sunday, using "very few ground troops and good intelligence" sounds a lot like what's working now. If he thinks he can rid the world of terrorism, something he alludes to, he's very deluded.

    And that wall? Waste of money. The entrance methods to the US already involve scaling walls and digging under them. Most illegal immigrants come in on visas (40% by air) and overstay. In addition illegal immigration is on a net decline from 4% of the population to 3.5%.

    His only idea for economic improvement - a trade war, will destroy the US economy.

    There is no magic wand that is going to make American great(er) overnight. America will improve as it always has, with incremental improvements in economic performance and social well being. That's worked well for more than 200 years and it's what will work in the future.

    Trump is a snake oil salesman.
     
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    that describes HITLERY to a tee.:roflol: why they cant see that is whats far more puzzling.
     
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    cause he promises to make Germany great again.

    oops, I mean't America.

    ;)
     
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    uh dude HITLERY will violate them far worse than he will.at least trump has come out and said the fed needs to audited.the fed is the reason the world is in the mess that it is today. Trump is not a mass murderer either like the clintons are.

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    you took the clinton apologists to school.:thumbsup:

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    Funny. that describes Clinton to a tee as well even more so.:grin:
     
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    They do, but as with all sorts of other countries in the world we have forgotten why we should support democracy over tyranny.
     
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    The entire planet is not nor democratic neither stable ...

    This for accuracy.
     
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    His slogan, make America great again, bothers you deeply. America is the devil. Israels number 1 allie. We use all mother earth's resources and cause global warming. Why would u want to make America, where Americans live, great?
     
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    I think a large part of this country is actually hoping for it. We're not immune to totalitarianism. We might be ripe for it.
     
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    his slogan is fine.

    his slogan + his bigoted comments + insane ideas, is the problem
     
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    His "slogan"? Good grief.. Trump is a sociopath.

    Here's an article about Trump's business and divorce from Vanity Fair

    http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2015/07/donald-ivana-trump-divorce-prenup-marie-Brenner

    And about Marla Maples who was in love with Trump by 1988

    http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/features/2425/

    His daughter Ivanka was only 7 years old.
     

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