Trump announces escalating tariffs against Mexico,starting at 5 percent until illegal immigrants

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  1. Heartburn

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    No we will get the wall, illegal immigration will be slowed and the left will still be screaming "majority rules, majority rules."
     
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    To China?
     
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    Well, the women are short, fat, long black hair, brown skin, Mexican attire, babies strapped to their backs, pregnant again, and a string of Spanish-only speaking children in tow, have EBT cards that they often don't know how to use (the cashiers have to help them).
    Pretty sure they are illegals.
     
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    What is it about illegals costing us $130 billion a year that you don't get? I would rather pay a little more for a product than having at least 12 million illegals sponging off the tax payer, bringing down wages for Americans, joining gangs like MS13, and taking up all the HUD housing so Americans have to spend years on a waiting list.
     
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    "Hate". The bullshit word that the left uses to squelch opinions different from their own.
    We are running out of water, our infrastructure is embarrassing, homeless Americans everywhere, people pouring into the country who hate America, deficits in the trillions. Bringing in uneducated, low-skilled workers, welfare- sponging illegals should be the last on our list of things we need to do.
     
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    When all is said and done, they contribute nothing to the GDP. They use up more taxes in the social services they get than what they pay into the system. They do contribute a lot to Mexico's GDP though.
     
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    Who is running away from you? Why would anyone run away from you? You are not that scary, and your political opinions aren't so wonderful that anyone would cower to you.
     
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    Ohhh. All that money they contribute to businesses can be recouped with the money we would save if they all went home. I think it is you who doesn't understand economics. The left has a really hard time, it seems, understanding that these illegals cost us $130 billion a year; and that is after the taxes they pay are subtracted from the total amount of social services they get. You can't admit that though because your narrative of the hard working, productive illegal would fall apart.
     
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    You haven't been following the news have you?
     
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    One of the consequences of Trump's punitive tariff on Mexico - for which Americans will pay - is increased illegal immigration.

    To the extent he sabotages the Mexican economy, he creates more unemployed Mexicans who will migrate to the US to find employment.

    Trump identified no objective criteria to cancel his tariff and, in the first three months of this year alone, Mexico arrested 31,000 and deported another 22,000.

    Central American refugees are fleeing economic crises, political upheaval, and especially drug cartel violence that the Mexican government can't do anything about. (And that U.S. policies have actually inflamed and made worse.)

    https://www.theweek.com/articles/844555/trumps-mexico-tariffs-make-no-sense-but-maybe-thats-point
     
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    At this point its not implemented and just a threat. But the first time I read it I thought the same thing about the criteria to cancel the tariff, its not clear enough and a lot of money and effort could be used that will result in nothing for Mexico if not handled properly. I would do nothing if I was them until that is cleared up, if it even can be. No country on Earth has a proven method to stop illegal entry 100%, even militarized borders are not 100%.
     
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    India?
     
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    Probably not, they are in on the fun now with Mexico and China. Think cheaper like Vietnam or the Phillipines ect. :lol:

     
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    Trump should use the tarrifs to finance the wall. Great idea!
     
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    The plan I like best is tax the money they send home.
     
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    I'd even go so far as confiscating it. That would end the incentive for Mexico to facilitate entry into our country in the first place. Money sent to Mexico from earnings in America is their single largest source of revenue.
     
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    So you don't know. Nice story bro.
     
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    Post the numbers. Why are sourced numbers always absent?
     
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    Well there is that, but for a right winger it is all about knee jerk reactions. That way they can feel proud of themselves in the moment then blame everyone else when it goes to ****.
     
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    It's already to ****. What we are discussing is how to clean it up.
     
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    The only long-term viable policy is to promote progress and decent living conditions in those nations from which people are forced to flee.

    Mass migrations have occurred throughout human history, and the inevitable consequences of anthropological climate change will make its intensification inevitable.

    How many of those demonizing folks desperate for a decent life for their families would be sticklers for observing bureaucratic impediments if they were confronting the same horrific conditions?
     
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    People like you always talk about them stealing your jobs too. How useless do you need to be to have one of them take your job? You should probably look within yourselves. You might find the solution to illegal immigration, and it has nothing to do with walls or tariffs.
     
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    Blaming everyone else is a cornerstone of Trumpery, but I expect Bluster Boy's threat is fake. He'll wimp out and claim he won.
     
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    Sure it is because both parties have looked the other way because their business owner supporters need the labor. No one is ever going to clean it up. They don't want to. They just spout it so you will vote for them.
     
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    Yes, the Republican and Democrat elites both support open borders. The Chamber of Commerce will support open borders so long as Americans reject reproduction.
    Only Trump and a few Republicans really w, ant to secure the border.

    Tariffs on trade with Russia, China, Mexico and other nations hostile to the US that meddle in our elections are probably a good thing.
    Trading with enemies is usually foolish.
     

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