Trump & Barr manufacture voter fraud scandal (9 ballots tossed)

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    incompetent rebuttal: UNSUBSTANTIATED claim.

    It doesn't. You project upon it an assumption which isn't there, that's all you are doing.

    If you can't frame a legitimate argument, and grasp what is or what is not true or logical, off to the kill file you go, not that being ignored bothers you or that you care.
     
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    it also isn’t correct it doesn’t show the conviction for the obamagate agent that just plead guilty
     
  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Given that, in the annals of the history of national elections, there has been mail in/absentee voting in fairly big numbers going back to the civil war, and that despite this, there has yet to be any proof of fraud on a massive scale, leads us to the unescapable conclusion that the proposition that 'there might be' isn't a sufficient argument to outweigh 'in two hundred and fifty years, there never has been" and, because of that fact, it's not a merit worthy argument to deny people a chance to vote by mail, when to vote in person could cost them their lives, owing to the covid virus.

    More information:

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/8/18/21373478/absentee-ballot-vote-by-mail-voting

     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Again what the Dems are doing now is nothing like what we've done in the past. You're comparing apples and oranges.
     
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    Just wait and see what you reap on the day after Trump's landslide people will show up ready to stop the ballot counts.
     
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    Yes, that appears to be the 'clever plan'
     
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    A rare moment of Trumpish honesty
     
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    So much for a legal and fair election huh?
     
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    Legal and fair would be no one pulling votes out of their ass a week after the election.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, by extrapolation, we are doing exactly what was done in the past, just in larger numbers.

    That is precisely why extrapolation, the plotting of a statistic of a particular field, works onto a larger version of it.

    I think you are confused about apples and oranges. It's apples in a barrel versus more apples in a bigger barrel, i.e., the fact that works for one, works for the other.
     
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    Ok, assuming all of this is true (not an issue I have looked into that much), assuming whoever yo support actually wins, all you are doing is laying the groundwork for the opponent to challenge that win. It is a double-edged sword. Worst case scenario is Nancy Pelosi becomes POTUS instead of either of them.
     
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    Of course you're talking about ballots delayed by the Postal Service because of what Trump's appointee has done to that system...
     
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    No we are not we have never mailed them out unsolicited to everyone on the rolls.
     
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    Exactly that is the purpose even senior Dems know old Joe's paddle don't quite reach the water.
     
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    Not the problem.
     
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    There were nine ballots thrown in a trash can at an election office in Wisconsin. All nine ballots were cast by Military members, and 7 were cast for President Trump. The only thing that the brainiac at MSNBC could come up with to challenge it is that President Trump himself blew the whistle on the incident. Really. The President was briefed on it, and told a reporter. My question is whether MSNBC might have been informed of the incident, and chose not to report on it until after the President made mention of it. Those ballots make the narrative that fraud can't happen with mail-in ballots look suddenly pretty flimsy, but the President mentioning it on Fox News meant they could spin it.

    Here is the facts. Someone at the elections offices opened nine absentee military ballots. At least, seven of them were votes for President Trump, and two had been opened and resealed. (There is actually some question as to who resealed them.) All nine ballots were thrown in the trash. Later, a staff worker found the discarded ballots in the trash and alerted the police. That is why the investigation is taking place. Yes, I have no doubt that the DOJ and the FEC will be monitoring the investigation. But isn't that what is supposed to be done. The Wisconsin Elections Board released a statement that the fact that these nine ballots were found proves their security system worked, I don't buy it. The fact that those nine votes made it into the trash, proves that there is something going on. This was nothing more then a test run to see whether that plan worked. It didn't so, they will try another. Further, if that staff worker had not been so diligent, would the ballots have ever been counted? Nine votes might not seem like a lot, but that is all they have found so far. How many ballots might have already been buried at a landfill somewhere.

    There has been a lot of grumbling by the left about improperly fill out absentee ballots will not be counted. It could be that there are some liberal poll workers that want to throw out as many proper filled out ballots as those improperly filled out ones. Some might consider it leveling the playing field, but I call it voter fraud. The fact that all the exposed ballots that were thrown out were all cast for President Trump speaks volumes.
     
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    Bullshit. All SORTS of questions are being asked and will be during the election.

    There is all SORTS of scrutiny
     
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    Oh? You're whining that votes will be "found" days after the election...but ignore the fact that Trump's toadie in charge of the Postal system is intentionally slowing down mail delivery?
     
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    Wrong from the start

    These were naked ballots. They were sent WITHOUT the secrecy envelope...which made them invalid and likely WHY they were discarded
     
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    And oh yea...in was in PA
     
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    Your source?
     
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    You want my source?

    Where's yours?

    My facts are correct. Yours are not. Wrong state...wrong circumstances
     
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    The erroneous assumption being fraudulent votes will be cast and counted. You have no actual evidence of that.
     

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