Trump calls for raising minimum age to buy all guns to 21

Perhaps - but the fact remains: records of crimes that would have disqualified him from getting a gun at 18 will still be sealed at age 21.

 

Yes, but as we know, those who begin committing crimes at a young age, i.e the 1% of the population who commit 64% of all violent crime, aren't going to stop when they turn 18.

That means we either have a repeat offender with a juvenile record who can buy a gun as soon as they turn 18, or a repeat offender who we have 3 years of criminal data on at 21.

Combine that with the fact that nearly all violent crime is committed by those younger than 26 and you get a valid argument.

It should at least be considered and not rejected out of hand. It does have some merits.

 

That's not to say that's the only possible recourse.

For example, a requirement to unseal all juvenile criminal records for anyone who wants to buy a firearm at 18.

That would mean the first firearm they purchase would take a little longer though.

 

I looked carefully at both sides of the issue and switched from hardcore 2a to moderate 2a some time ago.

I never said everybody should be willing to tolerate anything, we're all allowed to have opinions. I will support politicians that dont cross my lines with one vote, and if the opponent is worse I'll support them anyway.

frankly were already doing versions of the above in various states.


Im fine with those that have rock solid opinion with zero compromise to feel differently than I do.

as far as a deterrent, I jumped through florida hoops during purchase, waiting period and all when applicable , it wasnt that tedious.

 

You -could- be talking about a juvenile that committed -one- disqualifying crime as well.

 

Pity.

So you will understand when you cannot convince anyone else to go along with your admittedly unnecessary and ineffective restrictions.

 

If someone already owns a firearm or 20, why should there be a "waiting period"?

Wait for what? Background checks take a minute or two.

 

I disagree with Trump on this, as well as his views on bump stocks. I have other disagreements with him (including government spending, which like any of them except Ron Paul, aren't serious about doing anything about it). But overall, in the grand scheme of things, he is doing a great job, and for the most part is defending conservatism. I'll gladly vote for him in 2020. In fact, since the Democrat Party has gone so far off the deep end (wanting Socialism and the such), I will always vote Republican just as a vote against their Socialist ideas.

 

Exactly how does targeting law abiding citizens "save lives"?

 

Suicide can easily be done without a gun. Mental health issues are no reason to grab guns from law abiding citizens who don't have mental health issues. Address the mental health issues instead.

Define "humanitarianism". Hell, even take a stab at "conservatism".

 

Misleading numbers... Most of those are suicides.

Guns are not a national emergency.

You are not a dictator. You do not get to tell people what they "need".

 

Yes it is.

 

~ Raise the age for a driver's license to 21 as well ... ✔

 

Guess he shouldn't have committed a disqualifying crime then.

 

Absolutely.

A waiting period for your first gun? Ok, whatever, still stupid.

For the second gun? What's the point?

 

The second amendment is in a document called the Bill of Rights, which isn't a bill of needs.

 

Sadly this archaic "right" has caused 572,000 deaths in USA 1999-2016.

 

The Majority is the Dictator. I am nobody.

 

By restricting guns to people over 21, President Trump is saving the lives of those who would have been killed by young offenders. That includes suicides.

 

There is no right to commit murder. What is being called a "right" on the part of yourself, is an illegal offense in one out of every three cases, and a personal choice in the other two out of every three cases.

 

Such is not how things work in the united states.

 

Except for the simple fact that none of the above can actually be proven as being anything more than unfounded opinion.

 

Definitely -- under Democracy, the Will of the Majority is the Law.

 

The united states is not a democracy, it is a constitutional republic where the rights of the minority are given consideration.

If the united states were truly a democracy, blacks would still remain slaves, homosexualism would still be punishable by death, mental defectives would still be sterilized without their knowledge, and individuals such as yourself would be executed for being drains on society who provide no net benefit to the country.

 

I had 3, nothing bad happened to me either and it was a fun hobby.

yea they (checks) are easy and convenient. but is 3 days or 7 days that huge of a deal?

I think permit owners skip the wait in FL butn I could be wrong


The 3 day wasnt a problem for me, just being honest.