Trump Declines Certification That Iran is in Compliance; Brands Iranian Republican Guards Terrorists

Good Lord, do you do your Heil Hitler! in front of the mirror every morning?

We are all getting a little tired of the bigotry, racism, hatred, misogyny, identity insanity and antisemitism of the dead end anti-Trumpers!

Crawl back under your rock!

He shall smite you on the head, but you will smite his heel.

 

I know our history all too well. Sure at one time, we were a more principled nation, with decent values, but I am not talking about that america.

We are responsible for half a million deaths of children in Iraq. And it was due to a ruse, lies, and a neocon driven foreign policy. Just because MSM kept you insulated from it, allows you to be ignorant of it. How many innocent people have our drones killed? And obviously the number does not matter. So, perhaps you need to keep up with what your own nation does?

My nation, your nation is not the saint you are deluded to believe. We have turned into what we once fought against. So best to just deny it, and stay in your comfort zone. If you think we have some kind of moral high ground from which to look down upon others, you have not been paying attention, although MSM, most of our media, insulates us from it. Truth is, we as a nation, our gov't, could not care less how many innocent people, even kids, get snuffed out, for if we did, we would go after our enemies differently, instead of using a sledge hammer to drive a 6 penny nail.

 

No, you are flapping out propaganda. Do you want to talk about wars? Or are you insinuating that America indiscriminately flies drones to places like Canada, Mexico, and around the world to kill babies. If baby killing bothers you, you know where to begin.

 

Yes, they didn't much like being ruled over by a puppet of the west. But I am quite positive if you are an american, you would love being ruled over by a puppet of say....China, France, or how about Mexico? Who was looking out for their interests first and foremost? Like having dibs on our natural resources? And if you opposed being ruled over by a puppet of some other nation, you would not mind it at all if this puppet had secret jails and methods for dealing with you, right? In a very brutal, secretive manner.

The trouble with many americans, is that they no longer will put the shoe on the other foot, and ask, how would I and other americans react to such a scenerio? Oh well, its just a bunch of middle easterners, or Persians, and what do that really matter anyways?

 

Blabber blabber blabber. They can overthrow their mothers if they want, it's their country. However, they have gone on to create instability, death and havoc across the Middle East, and that becomes a world problem.

It is also why the world tries methods of control like propping up a shah. At least there was peace during that moment in time. The historic inability of the third world to self-rule, self-develop and live in peace was one of the arguments for colonialism.

 

That's the best you can do when debunked by credible sources & the facts?
Loyal Americans who are opposed to Zionist driven wars are more sick of war mongering Zionist shills who can only howl "anti Semite" when exposed as shills for Israel's Right Wing war mongers

While many loyal American Jews oppose American conflicts with Iran etc, there is no question that America's Mid East Foreign policy is largely driven by AIPAC etc

“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003

The V.A. hospital I used is filled with the REAL cost of AIPAC's "Quiet success" in the form of mutilated, burned, mangled, & traumatized young American G.I.s whose lives have been shattered fighting a war for the country to which you are most loyal: Israel

Name another group of foreign lobbies with the power to drive America to war

 

Slither back into your hole!

The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.

 

Blabber, when the truth creates a bad rash in those who are allergic to the truth.

They have created no more instability, in fact far less, than the sunnis. In case you didn't know, or notice, 90 percent of attacks come from arab sunnis, and not Persian shiites. So who is the greater problem in the middle east? The greatest problem involving Iran is that they are shiites and are hated by the sunnis, which is the majority in the middle east. These two sects are enemies, and we decided to side with the sunnis where most of the radical terrorists are found. I would no more defend Iran that I would defend the Saudis, or the Israeli settlements in the West Bank. But I do believe in context, and looking at the Big Picture. And I care no more for Iran's theocracy than I do for the Saudi theocracy. Yet, given what the west did in Iran, I can at least understand their hatred for those who install puppet rulers. For we would feel the same if the shoe was on the other foot. Unlike you, I seem to detest hypocrisy and tend not to indulge in it, if I can help it.

 

Iran is even more likely to get nukes if Trump abrogates the Nuclear Deal.

While Zionist lobbies & Netalyahu are demanding ANOTHER war for Israel, the rest of the world is rapidly doing business with Iran under normalized relations.

Meanwhile, the US economy suffers while US businesses sit on the sideline:

"Foreign Investors Flock to Iran as U.S. Firms Watch on the Sidelines"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/foreig...s-u-s-firms-watch-on-the-sidelines-1490607002

EXCERPT "After years shunning Iran, Western businesses are bursting through the country’s doors—but U.S. companies are noticeably absent."CONTINUED

 

Shiites against Sunnis - how many deaths has that caused. Shiites and/or Sunnis agains Christians - how many deaths has that caused?
Moslem against the world - how many deaths has that caused?

Go buy some Calomine lotion.

 

Go Start you own topic if you want to engage in mindless anti-Americanism!

Fate of Iran Deal to Congress...



Trump hasn't withdrawn, he has simply refused to certify Iranian compliance. Now its in the hands of Congress!

 

Yes but they have every right to develop a deterrent nuclear program as long as there is a double standard in the Nuke club & Israel keeps pushing for war.

Do you want to throw the Region into absolute chaos and sacrifice millions of lives in ANOTHER war for Israel?


"Iran adhering to nuclear deal with world powers, U.N. watchdog says"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...01f919a8c86_story.html?utm_term=.e451633a79ba


"America Cannot Go to War for Israel"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ahmed-moor/america-cannot-go-to-war-_b_682467.html
EXCERPT "The Zionists Benjamin Netanyahu, Jeffrey Goldberg and George Will want young American men and women to attack Iran on behalf of Israel. These are the same men who wanted young American men to attack Iraq. But Iran is not Iraq, and many thousands of Americans will die in the next war.

There are thousands of Americans stranded in Iraq and Afghanistan, two states that share long and porous borders with Iran. It’s foolish to think that if America attacks Iran, those American troops will emerge from the carnage unscathed.

We have a responsibility to stop this hysterical march to war. Iran does not pose any threat to America. The men pushing this war lied to us about Iraq, and they’re lying now about Iran. The warmongers and profiteers must be forced back into their kennels. They must be discredited and shamed. America cannot fight another war built on lies. America cannot afford another war for Israel. "CONTINUED

 

What nonsense. The 9/11 terrororists were Saudis. That sent US troops into the middle east, not Jewish lobbyists. Going back further, it was the Shah of Irans greed that led to animosity between the US and Iran, not Israel. Islams wars are caused by Islams deeds.

 

The Iran of today is nothing like the Iran immediately after the expulsion of the Wests brutal puppet Shah. You won't read it in MSM but Iran has reached out to the US repeatedly only to be rebuffed by the Zionists dominating the Mid East Policy in our US Government(1)
Additionally, I've been to Iran and it's people couldn't be any friendlier(2)



(1) "Iran's President Rouhani Won't Stop Reaching Out to the American People"
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ont-stop-reaching-out-american-people/310856/


(2) "Those Friendly Iranians"
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/05/opinion/those-friendly-iranians.html?mcubz=3



EXCERPT "Finally, I've found a pro-American country.
Everywhere I've gone in Iran, with one exception, people have been exceptionally friendly and fulsome in their praise for the United States, and often for President Bush as well.

Then I stopped to chat with one of the Revolutionary Guards now based in the complex. He was a young man who quickly confessed that his favorite movie is ''Titanic.'' ''If I could manage it, I'd go to America tomorrow,'' he said wistfully.

He paused and added, ''To hell with the mullahs.''

CONTINUED

 

I've been able to support my assertions with credible sources throughout this thread and can continue to do so.

To deny that Israel's Right Wing Government doesn't want War with Iran (sacrificing US blood, of course) is as absurd as claiming that Zionist lobbies weren't a driving force behind the attack on Iraq.



(1) "Netanyahu Is Meeting Trump To Push For War With Iran"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/netanyahu-trump-war-with-iran_us_59bfc6e6e4b086432b089840
EXCERPT "Today, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will meet with Donald Trump at the White House and push the U.S. to withdraw from the nuclear accord with Iran.
…both the IAEA and the U.S. intelligence services have consistently reported that Tehran is living up to its obligations),"CONTINUED


(2) "Neocon Pundit: The Israel Lobby Wants War With Iran"
http://www.thedailybeast.com/neocon-pundit-the-israel-lobby-wants-war-with-iran


(3) "Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html

EXCERPT "But Netanyahu’s fear-mongering has made a difference. The Israel lobby here has made confronting Iran the centerpiece of its activities on Capitol Hill, successfully drafting and easily convincing both Democrats and Republicans to enact sanctions that punish the Iranian people along with resolutions making clear that the U.S. will go to war if Iran doesn’t give up its nuclear program."CONTINUED

 

It’s funny when the left accuses the right and everyone else of being evil racist Nazis when your post is clear undeniable proof of which party really is.

 

Meanwhile, Zionist Shills get paid to infect political forums & call loyal Americans & anyone opposed to wars for Israel "Nazis"
There is nothing "anti Semitic" about the truth that Hasbara Trolls work so hard to suppress

"ZIONIST SHILLS get PAID "easy $" for posting Israeli Propaganda"

EXCERPT "Also known as Hasbara trolls - some info on them -
They more often than not will post comments under an American flag or other nationalities so that you think it's an American or other nationalities posting, and giving the false impression that their biased views are the majority view and the one that holds sway over all others, when in fact the opposite is true. Many have multiple IP. CONTINUED

 

#39 + 40 ... Yikes! Of course Israel has an interest in preventing Iran from becoming a nuclear state. Iran vows the destruction of Israel, which is a clear, and immediate threat, should Iran acquire the bomb. Iran also developing ICBMs ... so at some point, threats against the US will be credible. Again, it is Irans provocations creating Irans crisis.

 

Ive gone from being labeled a KGB troll, to a Nazi troll, to a Jewish troll.

You can't write this stuff. Too funny. Sure many of you have been hit with the same bullets.

 

You people are so tiresome & transparent with your fatuous slander.
In other words, you can't refute the fact that Zionist lobbies are influencing Trump to escalate tensions with Iran to the point of another war for Israel.
I simply support America's best interests over what war mongering Right Wing Zionists & their disloyal advocates want.

 

RE:

I suspect that ex Mossad Chief Pardo knows better than you what is "Israel's greatest threat"

Hint: It ain't Iran


"Israeli Minister Agrees Ahmadinejad Never Said Israel ‘Must Be Wiped Off the Map’"
https://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2...r-said-israel-must-be-wiped-off-the-map/?_r=0

AND

"EX MOSSAD CHIEF: ISRAEL'S BIGGEST THREAT IS POTENTIAL CIVIL WAR, NOT IRAN"
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Po...threat-is-potential-civil-war-not-Iran-466415
EXCERPT "The most pressing threat to Israel is not Iran, but rather the increased polarization within Israeli society, former Mossad chief Tamir Pardo said in his first public appearance since leaving office in June.

“There is no outside existential threat to Israel, the only real existential threat is internal division,” Pardo said at an annual event to honor fallen Druse soldiers in the North.

In response to reporter’s questions, Pardo also addressed the Palestinian issue, saying that without a diplomatic solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict “we will never be able to achieve normalization with our Arab neighbors.”CONTINUED

 

It’s not fatuous slander if you are openly admitting it. Your posts are filled with racist anti Semitic hate speech and you are proud of it, so don’t accuse me of slander when you are literally admitting to it.

 

Maxine is proud of you for your bold 180

 

Of course we must understand that the view of most americans, is created by our Gov't who uses the media to manufacture consent against Iran and her people. Most americans do not have the time, or perhaps the motivation to search for the truth about Iran and the Big Picture of what is involved. All that our people hear is the demonization of Iran, coming from MSM and the right wing Israeli gov't. So, an honest and objective picture is severely lacking in america in regards to Iran.

We must also not forget that Iran is one of the nations listed in the neocon paper, New American Century, to be taken down, along with Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, and a few north african nations. And to put icing on this cake, they included Russia. And given we have lived under neocon foreign policy since 9-11 gave this group what they needed to begin operations to fulfill the New American Century, to insure our hegomony, it is to be expected that MSM would propagandize us in support of this neocon, imperialistic foreign policy. To manufacture consent with the public. And of course, any contrary and credible american experts on Iran would be blacked out in our media. For only one side of a story is allowable, for otherwise it is harder to manufacture consent when americans have to actually think, when they hear facts from the other story. This desertion of journalistic standards, and basic honesty is what destroyed any free press we may have had, and given us a faux free press. And most americans are not rightly educated to see this as a problem, and to recognize what is obviously going on with our information sources. Then other americans, due to ideological beliefs, could not care less if propaganda is used on the People, for that propaganda jives with their ideological beliefs, which they hate being challenged by the other side of a story and even facts. This is a shame, and of course dangerous, if one lives under a constitutional republic, but then, we do not live under that form of gov't anymore, according to Princeton, who used congressional record over several decades to evidence their conclusion that we are now an oligarchy, fascism. Yet the one side of the story MSM propaganda on behalf of a neocon driven gov't is exactly what one would expect to happen under fascism. For a genuine free press would be a great enemy to any such oligarchy.

Iran has never been a threat to the US, in reality. But you can demonize any nation, and create the false perception of a threat. And no doubt that Israel's right of center gov't wants Iran to be a clear and present danger to the US, and will work hard to manufacture that perception. All of this is obvious and can be see with a bit of objectivity.

Personally speaking, I have never been to Iran. But I am friends with an Iranian engineer here, who back in the 70s attended pilot training at our local USAF base, married an american, and has lived here ever since. My daughter is close friends with one of his daughters. I met his mother when this daughter got married here in a church, for this Iranian is christian. His mother is westernized, and speaks english better than myself. I have talked with Sid, the father, about practicing christianity in Iran. He told me that was no problem, for Iran respects other religions and even protects their right to worship as well as their safety, which he said was not a problem in Iran. At least back a few years ago when I last talked with him. He would have no reason to lie about it. And so what I know of Iran has come from what he has told me. And he never painted the picture that western media paints about the people of Iran. He told me most Iranians, the common person loves america and all of the things that have come from us, the music, the technology, and do not understand why they are seen as the enemy that we portray them as being. But yes, they live under the mullahs, and a sect of Islam, and many of them would like to be more western and secular, but then again, many of them like the theocracy. So, IMO, these people should be allowed to live as they want. And it is not our business to tell them how to live, no more than it is their business to tell us how to live.

The political situation in that part of the world is complicated, and goes back a long way. Iran sees a threat coming from the sunnis, like the Saudis and of course from Israel, and there is no doubt Iran supports a solution, a reasonable and fair solution for the Palestinians. And given that they are an enemy of Israel, Israel is therefore an enemy to Iran. But to say Iran is all wrong and Israel is all in the right is nothing more than a simple lie. Israel is not a saint, nor are they reasonable in all of their policy towards nations like Iran. And the same can be said about Iran, or any political or geographic foes. But what is sorely lacking is a better understanding of this conflict and the conflict, an age old conflict between the Persian shia and the arab sunnis. Our gov't and MSM has made Iran the devil and Israel, and the arab sunnis, some kind of saint. But that is not reality, and yet this is the perception most americans have, cleverly cultivated by our gov't and their criers, our media, especially the MSM owned by 6 huge corporations. Quite easy to control a media that is no longer diversified, but owned by a relative tiny group of entities, whose self interests are promoted via the media that they own.

 

I didn't make a bold 180, Trump made a decision impervious to US National Security. And we can't risk the safety of our citizens to a moron. While the noble idea of A Citizen's government(instead of an oligarchy) was indeed noble, Trump sadly wasn't the right citizen.