Trump gets the last laugh on Macron with Paris burning after his rebuke of 'America First'

American dream and Mexico economics are two different things.

"The vast majority of homes are either inherited, bought with cash, or else are self-built on cheap vacant land, although informal lending systems among friends and family members no doubt lie behind many of these cash purchases. In the absence of debt-financed home consumption, most new homes must be very modest to match the limited purchasing power of potential buyers"

. https://www.kevinklinkenberg.com/bl...e-a-higher-rate-of-home-ownership-than-the-us

 

Sure seems like they have the same dream as everyone else.

 

Seems more of an economic decision to me. Just something to live in.

"self-built on cheap vacant land"

 

Hmmmm....if it's in US, it's a 'dream', and elsewhere it's something else

Why is it hard to accept that people in other countries might have the same dreams and goals as us, like having a roof over their heads?

 

As the world becomes exposed to the American dream it is contagious I'll give you that. Our values are infectious and as other countries are exposed to them their citizens either want to come here or want their country to be more like us.

 

I doubt it's the "best insulation there is" that seems like an exaggeration that Trump would make. As I sourced before,... Germany has massive amounts of woodlands. Old Germany houses are them typical houses who got them wooden beams with I think clay in between that they paint white. They simply build concrete ones.

Well Greece and their population following regulations. It's a national sport to not to, and their government accepting it. Hence the country is in such dire problem. I read an article that they have to pay some extra taxes when they own a swimming pool. I ones read a article how few people pay for that, with an image of google earth showing how many people actually got swimming pools.

 

Germans rather have money on the bank, and be free like that.
Most Americans are slaves to who ever they are in debt to.
They are all about get now, pay later. They don't really own their own houses.
Would be there a car dealership in the US selling cars without offering a loan?
I doubt it.

 

Oh yeah. And if Germans are too poor to pay their own houses, it would mean that according to some posters logic, the Mexicans are richer than Americans. lol

 

I seriously seriously doubt that. As somebody else noted,.. Mexican house ownership is higher than the ownership of the US.
https://www.kevinklinkenberg.com/bl...e-a-higher-rate-of-home-ownership-than-the-us

Your idea that Americans have more wealth and so they are able to buy their houses easier, is something you never proved to be true. And this debunks it. I'm not even going to look up if Mexicans are more wealthy than Americans.

As for how expensive it is in Germany.
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/overseas-property/property-67021627.html
For less than 400.000 euro's you can get a bloody penthouse in BERLIN!
Yeah.. just 82 something m2. Rather dead center of it all. Park near by. It's lovely.
And that's cheap as dirt compared to say New York.



Your arguments are simply not based on anything.

 

The goal is to own your house debt free by retirement which is very common. Before that owning your own home is freedom to do what you want in it and to it and it's historically a way of building wealth. Most younger people buy a starter home and fix it up to resell later at a profit and move to a nicer home. This generally continues until they retire at which point they own a really nice home or sell it at a nice profit and downsize into a smaller less expensive home for the kid free golden years.

 

you're making it all up with nothing to back it up.

 

But very expensive to say Boise

 

You really think we invented houses?

 

http://www.cominghometoconcrete.co.nz/page/christchurch-concrete.aspx

 

It's the American culture to just get it all, with a debt. The debt probably gets paid when they die and the house is being sold.

 

400.000 euro's for a penthouse in the middle of Berlin, +80m2, nice location as well. That's cheap housing. Get real. You probably need to pay a kewl million for that in New York.

 

I never said Americans could buy houses because Americans were wealthy. I said that Americans can buy houses because they are affordable. Same in respect to Mexico.

Again...apartment living is the way to go in Germany. Because those well built single family homes are not the affordable option.

But if you want to say that single family homes on a plot of land is affordable and available but Germans simply want to rent instead, then I will let ya.

 

I agree with you. But home ownership can look a lot different. I knew a family of Mexicans that had purchased a delapitated house and was living in pretty horrific conditions (by US standards). The mother was cooking outside over a campfire, house really seemed more like a lean to, no heat, no appliances, no water or plumbing. Child services was ready to take the kids away.

A mega church heard about their situation and a team of church members, who happened to own construction businesses, electricians etc, came out and basically built them a house saving the Day.

My point being, yes they want to own their land and home same as we do but it may not be the same experience..

 

Gimme a break...as the world becomes exposed to the American dream...etc...what a load of crap..anyone would think that the FSA is the be all and end all of the world...typical condescending yank bullshit...

 

That's likely because most people would prefer to live in New York rather than Berlin.

 

Do you even know what the American dream is?

 

Seems Macron was the only world leader who took those Paris climate change meetings seriously. The rest were there for the same reason anyone would like an all expense trip to Paris.

 

Yes, I know what the american dream is, however my post was to emphasize the arrogant manner in which the quote was framed.

 

Fewer Germans own homes for several reasons. First of all, Germany is about the size of Montana and has 83 million people. Finding a place to build a home is not easy or inexpensive. Germany does not allow deducting mortgage payments off their tax bill, making home ownership less appealing and more expensive. Germans are used to much smaller homes. The average German home is less than half the size of the average American home. In addition, the cost of building a new home in Germany is nearly double the cost of building the same home in the US.

 

Considering all the french officials which supported in a public way Mrs Clinton, I think it's ironic
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You're right. There is a huge difference between France and Germany. France has "the" city Paris and the rest. Germany have a lot of big cities, much more than France, but none as big as paris. Globally, population is more distrubeted in Germany than in France or UK. It's because of historical reasons, until the 1860's, Germany was a bunch of indenpendant cities which developped themselves in a separate way when France was an ultra centralized power. Furthermore, Berlin was on the eastern side and so was much less developped than the western part of Germany. For German, Berlin is their capital, but not the big city.
The USA share that un centralized situation with Germany, but USA are a 360 million countries people when Germany 80 millions. Until the late 2000, there were much more attractive cities in Germany than Berlin, like Hamburg.
After the cold war, there were a lot of poor, uninteresting districts in Berlin were nobody wanted to live.