Trump Proposes Assistance to Hourly Workers

He has, and he calls himself one

 

Conservatism is not purely “survival of the fittest”. It just means not giving $50K per year to sloths sitting on their couch all day.

 

huh? We aren’t taking it out of the workers play checks. It’s their money not the feds

 

I support the assistance for hourly paid workers to be able to stay home when sick. Note that I heard this proposal first from the Dem Senator of Washington State, so it isn't an original Trump idea. However, I wold give him credit if he would be able to get a coalition to push it through quickly.

 

There is only ONE reason why the curve in China is leveling off: Public life in large cities has been non-existent for almost two months. You gotta reduce the R0 value. We'll get there, it is just a matter of time.

I have a Chinese grad student in my lab who came back from China in the last week of January from Bejing. By that time she and people she know already didn't leave their place for a week. Will Americans be able to be that discipline? We don't know. However, the most economically vulnerable NEED government assistance to be able to stay home when they are sick, potentially for up to 2 months. That's why the plan Trump is proposing is good.

 

Trumps been asking for a payroll tax cut for quite some time

 

This is actually reversing socialism. Allowing me to keep more of my money is not socialism.

 

What means of production has he said we should take over?

 

Oh, I dunno' maybe a small part of the economy like the entire healthcare system for starters.

 

And what about making sure hourly workers don't miss a pay cut if they stay home? That was also something he said. Are you on board with that?

 

I have been on this forum for a long time. The degree of partisan hackery, believe it or not, is a relatively new thing.

 

You apparently haven't been poor in your life. Or if you were it wasn't for long. The phrase "miss a paycheck" refers to two different circumstances. 1: Where a company asks an employee to hold off paying that employee due to hardships with in the company. Those hardships can include things like the Covid Virus keeping people away from restaurants for long enough to put the company in the hole. 2: When a person gets paid but every single bit of their check goes directly towards bills. IE: It was spent so fast that it was like they didn't even get paid.

 

A concept that appears to be alien to many of our "progressive" friends.

I don't know where they got it into their heads that the collective/state owns everyone's money/property but their indoctrination is complete...

 

Poor people don't work hard. Don't you remember? Conservatives tell me that all the time when I try to pay for their groceries or health care. They tell me they are lazy and deserve to be hungry. Now they work hard? Sorry, you can't have it both ways. You can't have Schrodinger's poor, that is, they are both at the same time lazy and hard working.

Of course they are hard working when you want to propose a tax cut, and it's not like the rich and business owners also pay payroll taxes...hey and what do payroll taxes support...social security and medicare/Medicaid...huh, look at that, a clumsy backdoor way to cut programs Trump promised he wouldn't cut under the guise of economic stimulus. You guys might be that dumb, but we aren't.

 

Right, so why is it that when I say let's have these hard working people get the same quality health care as Donald Trump, you refuse? Because I can tell you right now, prior to Obamacare, most hourly, hard working Americans did NOT have access to it. Your progressive friends REWARDED them for their hard work. You opposed it. Now you want to cut THEIR taxes? BS. You want to cut YOUR taxes. You don't care about people, we do, but nice try convincing...well I guess yourselves since no one else is buying it...that you are on the side of hard working, struggling Americans.

 

Because Bernie openly declared he's a socialist. What would you have 'them' call him, an Austrian School libertarian?

Never mind that nationalizing/socializing the private health insurance industry and bringing it under government control/production has been at the center of Commissar Bernie's political campaign.

Based on his past statements, there's little reason to believe he would end there if left to his and his "progressive" comrades' socialist devices...

 

He’s not called for making hospitals govt run.

 

Bernie has not suggested nationalizing hospitals.

 

I said the healthcare system. If you think the private run hospitals are going to continue to survive under what the government is goint to pay them you are either a fool or have no idea of what you are talking about.
I do agree Komrad Bernie Freeshit Sanders is NOT a socialist, he is a flippin full blown communist.

 

"enact a payroll tax cut"

What do you mean he's taking your tax dollars? Do you know what a tax cut is?

 

Sarcasm?

Conservatives were never racist, that's been a democrat staple since the 1800's (look how they treat a black Conservative for example). And we've never opposed gays. We opposed forced acceptance (and take a peak at how democrats treat Conservative gays, too, if you want to see what opposition looks like).

 

Payroll tax cut. You get that money back - plus some.

 

Trump; "We're going to talk about hourly wage earners' getting help so they can be in a position where they're not ever going to miss a paycheck."

IN OTHER WORDS, PAID LEAVE!.....financed by T-bills/Notes, and Bonds.

NOTE: In the mind of a Republican, a national paid leave program fully finance by the workers is; TOO socialistic.

 

I say it's none of your business what HI/HC I want and other people want for themselves. When did you get it into your head that you have the right to dictate what HI/HC other people should have?

Prior to FullRetardCare, at least 70% of Americans were covered under an HI plan and had access to HC, and that number appears to be consistent with the number of hard working hourly employees at the companies I've worked at and had HI and access to healthcare. Even when I was younger and found it more economical to pay for my HC out of pocket instead of paying more for HI I still had access to HC and paid for the HC I accessed, along with millions of other Americans.

My "progressive" friends imposed individual mandates on us for our hard work. My "progressive" friends lined their pockets with our money. My "progressive" friends lied to us about how they were going to reduce our HC expenses, expand our choices and let us keep our HC plans and doctors if we liked them, period (earning their Dear Leader Obama a Politifact Lie of the Year award). But most of all, my "progressive" friends "rewarded" themselves by forcing everyone one step closer towards the government-run HC system that they wanted, not us. Yes, I did oppose their power grab and the mountain of lies it was built and sold on, as did most Americans.

The only thing you care about is POWER.

As for cutting people's taxes, I would like to see everyone's taxes reduced, along with the size, power and expense of government. The Metro DC area didn't become one of the richest areas in the country by accident - the nomenklatura and apparatchiks in Washington got rich off of hard working Americans.

You know what? Unlike many of the sanctimonious, phony altruists on the Left who pretend to be the champions of hard working, struggling Americans, I was born into a lower working class family in Chicago and I know what it's like to go hungry, and I can tell YOU and your ilk that you didn't pull me or anyone else in my family out of poverty.

 

What happens when someone like Bernie does away with private insurance? We stop writing a check to an insurance company and the government starts taking however much Medicaid/Medicare tax they "need" directly out of our paychecks instead. Next, the government has complete and total regulatory authority over healthcare, telling providers what they can and can't provide and setting price caps on services....which will bankrupt the private healthcare industry.

So they take out two industries with one government program.