Trump son met Russian lawyer after promise of damaging info. on Clinton

The noose tightens around the necks of the trump family


Donald Trump Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with ties to the Kremlin government during the 2016 presidential campaign after being promised damaging information about his father’s opponent Hillary Clinton, The New York Times reported Sunday.

Then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and President Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner also attended the meeting.

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...sian-lawyer-after-promise-of-damaging-info-on

 

lol

Come on really? The media has passed on from this, why can't you?

Actually, even if this did happen, so what?

Hillary did something illegal and there was some dirt on her servers, just like people are constantly digging for things about Trump.

Not sure if you guys pitch up any further nothingbergers, think they are all being rehashed at this point

 

Everyone wanted a smoking gun?
We now have it.
Of course, Traitor Trump Himself had already called on the Russia to do so.

"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able find the 30,000 Hillary emails.."


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He met with a lawyer from Russia huh. Oh noes.

Was Dr. Evil there?

 

Something stated to the media and quoted to the whole world is hardly a "conspiracy". Maybe the problem all along is that many on the Left simply doesn't understand vocabulary very well.

 

Another of your disingenuous posts.
He, along with [Veteran Bagman] Manafort, and Jared[PutinBankMeeter], Met to get Dirt on Hillary.
The meeting UNdisclosed/Lied about previous.

What's the matter with you, Partisanship eat your patriotism?
This isn't a NCAA Basketball game, it's our country. (or at least mine)
I'm really outraged at this pathological behavior.
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Sure they did.

They just met to talk about the grandkids.

They would have met in a secret hanger aboard an airplane but they were all booked.

 

Trump."hoped " I "hoped" that's not the same thing as telling them.



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From the actual source, the N.Y.T.

Them freaking vodka drinking Ruskies were meddling in our election and were donating money to the DNC and were supporting Crooked Hillary.

Not the first time the DNC and the Clinton's have accepted money from a foreign governments.

The Clinton crime syndicate has been getting donations from the Chi-Coms going back to the Clinton's Dixie Mafia days in Arkansas and the DNC along with the Clinton's got busted accepting money from the Chinease government. But the MSM had to protect the Clinton's.
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...etworks-didnt-give-damn-when-red-china-helped
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campfin/background.htm

Now it's the Russians who were sending money to the Democrat National Committee and were helping Crooked Hillary to defeat Donald Trump.

And the witch hunt continues.

What did Obama know and when did he know it ?

 

How many more meetings with various Russians! Not so long ago you would have been hard pressed to find anyone who knew any Russian people but it seems like Trump and his associates have first name terms with loads of them. "Make Russia great again"!

 

So, US media wants to **** with a lawyer that, judging by what I found on Internet, for years works with US citizens? Hell, bring it on - I bet she'll chew them up and spit them fined.


Especially considering that it seems she been on cases of USA prosecution of russians. I am literally smiling predatorily right now, I really think that one may backfire. I am not sure what "ties to Kremlin" she has, do not see anything like that mentioned, and term itself hints on information being made up - but what I actually FOUND makes me think - hope even - she will **** 'em up. Harshly.

 

More Russian Propaganda BS.

"Adoptions" (being banned) was the direct Result/Retaliation for US Sanctions/The Magnitsky Act.
The two are the SAME issue.

So we had The Three most important Trump advisors, admittedly meeting to get Hillary Dirt, in exchange for lifting Sanctions = "adoptions."
An obvious Quid Pro Quo.

You're more subtle than Jeanette, but still 100% Fullova it, and easily Debunked.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f34fc1d9d39_story.html?utm_term=.6df71fc78025

"...Veselnitskaya is Well Known to advocates of Sanctions against Russia, particularly the Magnitsky Act, which prohibits U.S. interaction with Russians alleged to have committed human rights violations. Congress’s passage of the law in 2012 angered Putin and led him to retaliate by halting American adoptions of Russian children.

The adoption issue is frequently used as a talking point by opponents of the Magnitsky Act, said William Browder, an American financier who worked in Russia and lobbied for the sanctions, which are named after an auditor Browder employed, Sergei L. Magnitsky. Magnitsky died in a Russian prison under mysterious circumstances in 2009 after exposing a corruption scandal.

The act lists the names of individuals in Russia, including judges and other public officials, effectively blacklisting them from doing business in the United States.

“I can’t imagine that she brought up anything during the Trump Tower meeting other than the Magnitsky Act,” said Browder, who recalled Veselnitskaya defending her Russian clients against money-laundering allegations made by the U.S. government connected to a tax fraud that Magnitsky uncovered. The case was settled in May."..."​

You can BS many here, but you're not even Close with me Ninnian
dos vidanya
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You do realise that we got rid of man who poshed through the adoption ban, right? And that it wasn't Putin? And I say "we" because I was one of those who signed petition that permanently ended political career of this incompetent, sloppy, overconfident shmuck.

As for that gal - as I said, bring it on, seems it'll be a swell opportunity for her to shine and ruin the lives of a couple or few politicians and journalists. Wish her luck, even. Maybe lawyer that speaks language of modern americans is exactly the right treatment for the clusterfuck of propaganda that USA media appears to be turning in.


And by the way, since I am on the correcting your mistakes page anyway - it's "do svidanya". If you do something - do it right, and if you can't - leave it to capable people.

And please, don't accuse me of "speaking bullshιt" in same post with quotes from USA mainstream media sources. Looks too funny to tolerate. Especially when.. Well, when I presented the actual info that anybody can find on the Internet themselves - and not some made up crap from USA television?

 

IOW, more Roosky BS.
NO Rebuttal re Veselnitskaya, (and your Busted Lies) just the usual TrumPutin "Fake News" charge.

And what would you know about "media". Your media is 100% GOVT line/Putin.
Ours has the truth and much criticism of our leaders.
You do know that.
You've lived long enough, seen enough, to know you live in a One Man Police State/Kleptocracy, and that you are 100% Lying for it.
You got No choice.
(and btw, in foreign Phonetic spelling there is no 100% accurate version. One can find several. Nice try at deflection tho)
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So, rude, clueless, ignorant and persistent in that ignorance. Well, I expressed my opinion and presented facts - not my fault you have problems accepting them.

Still, feel free to send me a private message if suddenly you'll be interested in learning something real about Russian Federation.

 

IOW..
STILL NO REBUTTAL TO ANYTHING I SAID... just "rude".
Gameover.

Even more telling, and confirming what I said, you can't discuss the Truth in public/on the Message Board!
But you are willing to by PM!
Your country has No free speech or Press.
I can go to my country's capital, or any big city, or post on the internet, or in any of it's Media, my strong Criticism.
You'd vanish.
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Uh-huh, ri-ight. You're done flamebaiting?

 

Oh is the leftness trying this again.....that figures.


Once Again, NY Times Attempts to Create Trump/Russia Collusion Where There's No Evidence.....

The New York Times has again published a supposedly damning story about members of the Trump team and Russians with little to no factual basis, a lot of insinuation, and paragraphs of irrelevant connections.

Saturday's story claims:

The article doesn't contain any statements about what was supposedly discussed at the meeting or an allegation of impropriety. Apparently the fact that the woman, Natalia Veselnitskaya, is a Russian lawyer with connections to the Kremlin is proof enough. A source told ABC News, though, that the campaign was not discussed.

Veselnitskaya is known as for her work opposing the Magnitsky Act, which President Obama signed in 2012. It blacklists individuals suspected of being involved in the murder or cover-up of the murder of Russian whistleblower Sergei Magnitsky from entering the United States or using its banking system. In response, Vladimir Putin stopped allowing American families to adopt Russian children.

The rest of the New York Times' article is essentially background on various players and a reiteration of events in the ongoing "scandal."

On Saturday, Donald Trump Jr. issued a statement saying that indeed, the meeting revolved around adoptions and the Magnitsky Act.

So the Times' claim that Donald Trump Jr. "arranged" the meeting is false? I'm shocked.

On Sunday he clarified the statement, saying he was lured to the meeting.

In the Washington Post report on the above statement, the analysis is:

"Donald Trump Jr. has made a potentially damaging New York Times report much, much worse."

Mark Corallo, part of President Trump's legal team, said that Veselnitskaya and her translator “misrepresented who they were,” and that the meeting was a setup, possibly by the Clinton team or the DNC.

“Specifically, we have learned that the person [Ms. Veselnitskaya] who sought the meeting is associated with Fusion GPS, a firm which according to public reports, was retained by Democratic operatives to develop opposition research on the President and which commissioned the phony Steele dossier. "

Brian Fallon, who served as press secretary for the Clinton campaign, said the younger Mr. Trump’s decision to take a meeting with a Russian individual who promised helpful campaign information raised further questions about potential collusion.

Sure, Brian. It does nothing of the sort.

For political operatives, in other words, it was a day that ends in Y......snip~

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/jennifervanlaar/2017/07/09/ny-times-report-on-kushner-meeting-n2352556

Once again the leftness falls for the okie doke. Even worse are the Anti Trumpers who are played for chumps by the leftness.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-with-a-lawyer-about-adoptions.509395/page-3

 

The Times ‘exposé’ on Donald Trump Jr. is a big yawn.....

The news was delivered by the New York Times in the breathless tones that might announce a cure for cancer or the discovery of life on Mars:

“President Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.”

To which a rational response is … who wouldn’t? And also: So what? A third response is unprintable.

Just as the “Russian collusion” fantasy — a resentful smear cooked up in the immediate aftermath of Clinton’s stunning defeat last fall — was finally fading from the fever swamps of the “resistance” and its media mouthpieces, along comes the Times with a pair of journalistic nothingburgers.

They first reported that Trump Jr., along with Paul Manafort (then the campaign manager) and Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, met with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer “linked to” the Kremlin, back in June, shortly after Trump had clinched the Republican nomination. The second claimed she’d promised dirt on Clinton and the Democrats in order to entice Trump Jr. and the others.

According to the younger Trump, the Clinton angle was just a ruse: “Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered,” he told the Times.

The real reason, it seems, was that Veselnitskaya wanted to lobby for the repeal of the Magnitsky Act, an Obama-era law that allows the US to deny visas to Russians thought guilty of human rights violations. In retaliation, the Russians promptly ended the adoption of Russian orphans by Americans.

And that’s what all the fuss is about? No campaign in its right mind would turn down an offer of information on their opponent. That is what opposition research is all about. You can bet Hillary wouldn’t have hung up on the person who claimed to have dirt on The Donald. After all, the Clinton campaign lobbied the comedian Tom Arnold two days before the election to release potentially embarrassing footage from Trump’s TV show, “The Apprentice.” Arnold declined.

Having established the smear of “collusion,” the Times must now link every story with the word “Russia” to it in the hopes that the rubes and suckers won’t stop believing that Trump somehow cheated his way into the White House.

But then, so are the other “collusion” stories the left is trying to peddle as proof of some sinister plot to subvert democracy. And all because they refuse to accept the results of the 2016 election. As the president might say: Sad!.....snip~

http://nypost.com/2017/07/09/the-times-expose-on-donald-trump-jr-is-a-big-yawn/


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-with-a-lawyer-about-adoptions.509395/page-3

 

LOFL
You don't like American Real Media like the The WashPost/NYtime, but Slobber up Right Wing Townhall.com
Home of wonders like Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, etc
Hey, why not Breitbart or Trump's favorite, Infowars!

The article Admits there was a QPQ meeting, but says "so what"/"yawn"?
"What" is that it, shows Blatant Illegal Collusion with a Foreign Government.

[even] it also puts a LIE to your original post I responded to denying what took place.
Game still over-ov.
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Its quite clear you didn't read the NY Times link. Oh and no, there is no clear evidence of a crime of intent to collude.


Since the president took office, Donald Trump Jr. and his brother Eric have assumed day-to-day control of their father’s real estate empire. Because he does not serve in the administration and does not have a security clearance, Donald Trump Jr. was not required to disclose his foreign contacts. Federal and congressional investigators have not publicly asked for any records that would require his disclosure of Russian contacts.

But in an interview with The Times in March, he denied participating in any campaign-related meetings with Russian nationals. “Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did,” he said. “But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way.”.....snip~

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html

Just how is a crime being committed when Trump Jr isn't even required to give a disclosure?



Mark Corallo, part of President Trump's legal team, said that Veselnitskaya and her translator “misrepresented who they were,” and that the meeting was a setup, possibly by the Clinton team or the DNC.

“Specifically, we have learned that the person [Ms. Veselnitskaya] who sought the meeting is associated with Fusion GPS, a firm which according to public reports, was retained by Democratic operatives to develop opposition research on the President and which commissioned the phony Steele dossier. ".....snip~


Whats really hilarious about your accusation. Is that which you accused Trump of.....Right in front of your face. Would be the fact of Democratic Operatives meeting with this Russian Woman who works for Fusion GPS. To get opposition research on Trump.

Funny how the NY Times says this.

Political campaigns collect opposition research from many quarters but rarely from sources linked to foreign governments......snip~

So what we have here is Democrats meeting with Lawyer linked to the Kremlin during the campaign. Imagine that. Yet the NY Times isn't pointing that out. Just pointing out Trump Jr, Manafort, and Kushner.

Why aren't those Democrat Operatives names mentioned? Obviously there was Democrat Russian Collusion, with the intent to commit a crime.

The motives are clear......Democrats say they can meet with Russians but don't have to disclose who they meet. The NY Times motives are to try and hook up Trump or his Team while avoiding that Demos are meeting with Russians. So the NY Times tries to protect the Demos by not giving out the names of those Demos meeting this Russian Woman who worked for Fusion GPS.

Whats really hot is when we start looking at the Democrats and their Russian Ties. Then that issue how the Democrats were the ones to give up breaches to the Russians. That the Democrats allowed the Russians to hack our top branches of Government. That the Democrats as a party are compromised. That Democrat affiliated groups and donors have been hacked by the Russians. With Some Demo affiliates paying ransom money. In Bit coins.

We even have the Democrats inviting the Russian Ambassador to sit with them on the floor of Congress when Trump gave his speech.

You will need to do better.....much better than blaming Townhall for putting that garbage in check. Oh don't forget the NY Post too.

We wouldn't want you to miss out on another lame excuse.

 

1. Trump Jr denied he ever had anything to with the Russsians.

2. Jr attended that meeting with Jared (Lied) AND Head of the Campaign at the time (and former Ukraine/Rusky Bagman), Manafort.

3. Jr first Equivocated about the content later admitting it was about Hillary Dirt... more than just "adoption"
As I pointed out above, That is a QUID PRO QUO since the suspension of adoptions was really just retaliation for Sanctions which the Russians desperately want them lifted.
So you have the illegal Collusion.
The Exchange of HACKED info/Hillary Dirt for lifting Sanctions.

4. Let's not forget: Two Months later Trumpov and Manafortov only Changed ONE item in the GOP Platform: Softening the GOP stance on Ukraine invasion.
And still wanting to Lift Sanctions.

5. Along with Trump, you've sold out your country for party.
Despicable.
This isn't a Hockey Game, it's obvious what's happened here.

6. Clean up your childish double/triple Spacing Righty.
I had to compress for readability sake.
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Still don't know how to read, huh?


“Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did,” he said. “But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way.”.....snip~

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html

The only ones that have sold out this country are the Democrats and their Cult following. To eager to be a global citizen of the world.

Save the dis leftist.....you are woefully outmatched, and outclassed.

 

Seems like another one of those "nothingburgers". I'll wait for further developments, but would note; there is some evidence this may have been a Hillary campaign 'set-up' (that Fusion-GPS connection), the proffer of 'dirt' on Hillary was just a lure (nothing was provided), it would be quite reasonable for anyone on Trump's team to be interested in 'dirt' on Hillary, we've no evidence anyone associated with Trump obtained 'dirt' on Hillary and gave it to the Russians or that the Russians gave Trump such 'dirt' and he made any use of it.

I've read it became evident right away the Russian lawyer didn't actually have any 'dirt' on Hillary and that the Trump team then moved on to discuss lifting restrictions on adoptions of Russian children. I expect a couple of weeks of speculation and innuendo relating to this Russian lawyer's Kremlin connections, obfuscation on Fusion-GPS and that weird dossier Steele compiled, imputations of money laundering and reference to influential Russian oligarchs -no evidence Russians gave Trump any 'dirt' on Hillary or that he told them what to do with any they may have found.

 

Such "collusion" wouldn't be illegal and a Russian Lawyer isn't a foreign government. Its a foreign Lawyer