Trump threatens shooting of Central American migrants who throw stones

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  1. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    The twists to see people put themselves in is amazing. Do you really think a protective gear will stop the thousands of people trampling you as they force their way into the country? At what point would you condone the military firing at violent mobs? When would it be prudent to secure the border with force? Sorry if you really think the caravan will stop at just throwing rocks, they didn't stop there at the mexico border.
     
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    That's how us "RW wack jobs" react with foreign invaders that openly defy our laws and borders. We do not cow tow to mobs as leftist globalists would have us do. Rocks are thrown as a propaganda tool to over ride our National Sovereignty. A statement that we do not listen to such nonsense merely defines our seriousness on the issue. Individuals in these collective mobs do not want to die. They are brave men and women as long as they are part of the collective supported by leftist American lawyers that have an agenda.
     
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    Take it easy sunshine.
    It hasnt happened yet. Such comments could be part of a plan...ever heard of "deterrent "
     
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    Ya have to remember the Leftness doesn't have the capability to think US Troops would use rubber bullets.

    I know I know.....another one of their limitations. All we can do is wait for the left to start the Civil War again. Then we can re-correct the mistake we made with the left and the last Civil War.

    You know......allowing them to stay and breed.
     
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    If border guards and soldiers don't shoot as violent mobs assault them with sticks and stones the only other option is hand to hand combat which puts our people at severe risk.
     
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    Funny, you make a statement like this and then completely reframe the conversation from a stone being thrown to being trampled. How 5000 American soldiers are going to be trampled by 4000 Migrants who just walked across Mexico I have no idea, Either way, you're absurd.
     
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    You are not allowed to physically assault US troops or border guards or cops. Do so at your own risk.
     
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    Better yet.....force the leftness to give them food and water. Their Food and Water. Then watch how fast their love affair quickly ends.
     
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    You think its still only 4k? You think they will stop at the border? Their actions have been that the migrants will force their way through. Do you think the military will risk their people playing a game of push-o-war? This isn't the movie 300 where they will form a phalanx and be able to just stop the battering ram of migrants.
     
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    And .. has the border patrol shot back on Mexican soil? No!

    And that is the typical hypocrisy of the USA!
    If anyone else in the world thinks and acts the same way ... especially a country that is not "friend" of the USA, then the US is playing the prosecutor with reference to international law!
    But if it concerns the US itself, then "who the f *** cares"!
     
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    And who are these superiors you mean again?

    And if we do, we are as usual again the bad evil Krauts with hint to WW-2 etc., eh?
     
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    Cerb ...
    these 42 millions include for example every single f***ing truck driver who delivers (legal) stuff from Mexico to the USA! Aside this are also included all the people that work legally in the USA with Greencard, but life in Mexico.
    These people are everything, but no migrants!
     
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    Even after the US citizen was killed. Guess we shouldn't worry then when the caravan gets here and start being violent since American soldiers will have enough sense of when to shoot and when not to, they've only been in these situations for the past 17 years in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Who's talking about "America" and what they do, I am giving my opinion, I certainly don't speak for "America".
     
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    The violent alt-right Trump supporters have been circulating this photo of a bloodied Mexican federal policeman and within hours it went viral. The people that saw it glomed onto it rabidly and spread it on as many social media sites they could. They did this to show how 'violent' the Hondurans in the caravan are. The photo is a fake, and has nothing to do with the Hondurans in the caravan. It was taken in 2012.

    https://www.fox23.com/news/not-real-news-photos-not-of-officers-injured-by-migrants/859159736

    https://www.news.com.au/technology/...s/news-story/058f9664cd3a076d64d9e01fc43baf2c

    https://www.politifact.com/facebook...sting/photo-bloodied-police-2012-not-caravan/

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    The right has an image in their minds of an angry mob of thousands washing over border guards and flowing violently into the U.S. to go kill them or at best rob them of everything they have. That sounds extreme but that's exactly what conservatives have implanted in their brains thanks to Trump who wants them fearful, who wants them to become vigilantes, and who wants them to vote republican to 'secure our borders'.
     
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    Half the USA is gullible? Then you have a big problem.
     
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    So, will you volunteer to be a - rock test dummy? Stand between the soldiers and sweet innocent rock throwers to prove rocks are harmless?
     
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    I don't care if they are violent as a rabid dog or gentle as a declawed kitten. They've been given the opportunity for asylum in Mexico, they refused.
     
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    Nah....we don't need to be like the leftness and just make **** up. Nor do we seek to deny reality. Unlike the Leftness who has to run around and make **** up and lie.



    Border surge highest since 2011, each illegal immigrant costs $70,000,



    The net costs to taxpayers for every illegal immigrant who sneaks into the United States has reached nearly $70,000, about seven times the cost of deporting them, and about $70 billion, according to a new report.


    And, according to federal Census data, the surge of legal and illegal immigrants across the Mexico-U.S. border has reached a new high since 2011 and matched the historic high of 1.75 million set in 1999.


    The latest Census data from 2016 shows that immigrants continue to come into the United States, both legally and illegally, and the costs to taxpayers in enforcement and social services continues to rise — even when offset by the taxes they pay.


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    The first analysis revealed the huge surge of legal and illegal immigrants into the U.S., enough to double the population of Philadelphia every single year.

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    Camarota explained the costs this way:

    His full report is here. …..snip~

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...l-immigrant-costs-70-000-7x-deportation-price


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...mmigrant-costs-70-000.544960/#post-1069827102

    Uhm don't let these stats trick you.....more than you have already been tricked by those leftists. As its clear it doesn't take much.
     
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    How shitty soldiers can do the job of policemen, the story has proven so impressive and numerous ... even in the US itself!
    This is not due to the respectable soldiers, but to low brainern, who see in soldiers a better armed police ... only nuts do something like that!

    And a dead man from the border patrol / US custom service? Sorry ... I just shrug my shoulders and that's no argument for me, because that's part of the job risk! Apart from that .... I can find no evidence on Google for the claim!

    And if someone like evil Iran does the same ... the US is suddenly upset about! This is the point had happend in other issues so often, what makes the USA not credible in the end!
     
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    Even on Broadway in New York? Cmon now.....if they will hook you up for drinking a big gulp with a straw. You know you are toast Right? :lol:
     
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    I was an Administrator for the American Red Cross prior to my taking an early retirement. You can mark my words right here, right now that if the Red Cross called me today and offered to put me on a plane to sit in a tent at the border of McAllen or El Paso Texas to bandage swollen feet, to treat sick kids or to just pass out bottles of water, you bet your ass I would be there.
     
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    Obviously it isn't the Germans. Remind me how many times they have had their asses stomped?

    Oh were you just looking at American History.....Imagine that.
     
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    While I do think his words are much too inflammatory, sometimes, and he should learn to tone it down, calling him a racist is not supported by hard evidence. He isn't Strom or George Wallace. But with the modern liberal democrat, wanting to curb illegal immigration is, in their "affected" opinions, driven by nothing but racism, instead of the rule of law. I find it appalling, and just another reason I left the democratic party after being a staunch democrat for much of my life. I have been Independent since clinton and the 90s when the DP stopped representing the Common Man as FDR called us.

    I have never seen or heard trump say or do anything that reveals a racist, and I know what racism looks and sounds like having grown up in the South before desegregation. Consider Strom's speech in 1948, for a prime example. I think he had a lot to do with the founding of the Dixiecrats in that era. Pure racism.

    IMO, this calling trump a racist is just a prime example of identity politics, still practiced by democrats who want their power back. And not to use it to represent the people the dems once represented, working and middle class americans. But power for the sake of power. They like the intoxication just as the GOPhers do.
     
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    Well I think they will need some people for those contagiously diseased. Your welcome to go. No special equipment either. Just the touchy feely for your protection.
     
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    Parts of Mexico aren't much safer than the violence they're leaving behind. This is precisely what they're escaping.

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