Trump will be found guilty in the upcoming New York trial.

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  1. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

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    The federal and state prosecutors agreed that the case against Trump in the Stormy Daniels non disclosure payment affair is weak. Only Alvin Bragg, who doesn't have time to prosecute real criminals, as brought it. Why? It's for political reasons.

    Chances are Trump will be found guilty of something. Why? You can't impannel an impartial jury in Manhattan. In 2020, the vote was 73% Biden and just over 20% for Trump. Most of the Manhattan progressives would find Trump guilty of anything.

    Score 1 for Alvin Bragg, one of the worst DAs in America. He'll get political credit from the lame stream news medial.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    If Trump is elected, the first thing his appointee to the US Attorney for the SD of NY needs to do is investigate how much Money Bragg has been able to amass on a salary of less than 300K a year
     
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    Due process and justice. No one is above the law.

    Guilty ? Good.

    Bragg ? Good. I'll be contributing to he re-election campaign.

    Your opinion of our most excellent DA is discarded.

    So now that you have decided that Trump will be found guilty of something, what do you suggest ? A plea bargain ?
     
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    An upcoming election is prejudged as being corrupt if Trump loses. An upcoming court case (for which someone acting for Trump has been sent to prison) is prejudged as being corrupt if Trump loses. The training has been successful.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no doubt he will utilize the full weight of the government to resolve his personal issues like his criminal court cases. He will make himself #1 priority. You can bet money on it.

    Who needs the courts and juries when we have you.
     
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    Not surprising, given the mountain of evidence against him.
    In every one of trump’s trials, the evidence against him is clear and extensive, which is why his only legal tactic so far has been to distract, delay, obstruct and attack the rule of law.
    An innocent person would not act like trump.
     
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    Trump will be found guilty in the upcoming New York trial.

    Guess we will find out one way or the other. If Trump is found guilty then the OP can continue that it was an unfair trial. If Trump isn't found guilt then the OP should admit that his claims were unfounded and incorrect.
     
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    I'm an Independent, but the irony is incredible. If a Democrat pulled 1/10 of the BS that Trump did, Fox News and Republicans would be all over it every day of every week. The media should be all over Trump even more. The ACTUAL HISTORY, and these cases are horrendous. Hush money, porn stars, 9-month affairs while Melania was pregnant - that's not the crime, that's the media side. The crime is that he made payments under false pretenses - FRAUD. Democrats are held to a higher standard than Republicans.
     
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    As usual, the MO is to attack the DA, the judge and the jury, instead of provinf that Trump isn't guilty.
     
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    Trump is undoubtedly guilty of something in the Stormy Daniels Case.

    It's hard to pay someone over $100 K if you don't happen to have a briefcase of new $100s lying about.

    The straightforward way would be to pay her out of personal funds, file the gift tax return, and be done with it.

    But I'm sure that Trump is too clever and too cheap to do that. So there is some chain of transactions and paperwork to use pre-tax revenue from one of his businesses dressed up as a business expense. Hence, fraud and falsification of business records.

    Lots of rich people undoubtedly get away with things like this, since nobody is looking too hard. But once they look hard, a case can be made that the law was broken.
     
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    Where would you like to have the case moved?
    Who would you like the judge to be?
    Who would you like the prosecuter to be?
    Even if you got to make all those choices that wouldn't change the facts of the case. I have noticed over and over again that whenever the former President or his strong supporters have legal problems it is always the fault of the "fake news" press, the crooked investigators, the leftist DAs, the lying witnesses, the corrupt bribed judges and the biased unintelligent jury. He and his supporters have never directly dealt with the charges because there is always an excuse not to. "I am innocent" is seldom said, "I am the victim" is the approach.
     
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    The trial should be moved somewhere out of Manhattan, perhaps north of the city. As for Mr. Bragg, I know you love him because he’s one of many George Soros sponsored DAs who puts far left politics ahead of justice.
     
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    They have to.....Cohen went to jail for exactly this and "individual 1" has now been charged and the trial starts very soon.
     
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    Of course he will. That's already been decided.

    The case will ultimately get thrown out on appeal, but it will still mean Trump will have to expand time and money to fight it.
     
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    No one is below the law. Except Trump, of course.

    You claim Trump is guilty and you don't have the first GD clue what he's guilty of. Bragg says he committed a crime and that's all you needed to hear...lol
     
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    If there is a successful appeal, it will be after the election, which means that it will have served its purpose for the Democrats.

    The voters need to turn this crap out, and look at the issues, and their pocketbooks. Biden loses when you look at those factors.
     
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    What goes around, comes around.

    The full weight of the government is being used against him. Don't be mad if the tables are turned.
     
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    I don't even know what "below the law" means in that context.

    Yes, in my opinion, Trump is guilty of multiple crimes in at least 3 states ranging from Civil Fraud to Insurrection. I'll be very happy when juries return multiple felony convictions on him for those or any of the other charges for which he is indicted.

    That's all I need to hear.
     
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    I like him for "seditious conspiracy", treason and the RICO Georgia charges :). Now, Fanni stepped in it, so, she's going to have to up her game.
     
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    That does pose a quagmire, doesn't it. Here's an idea: how about if the NEXT perv who wants to be President DOESN'T pay off a porn start with campaign money to keep her quiet about having had sex with him?

    Now, there's a novel idea!
     
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    Under what circumstances would a prosecution of a Republican not be political?

    So, any criminal can be exonerated in the minds of Republicans merely by running for office?

    You guys make no sense.
     
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    Biden got the first major infrastructure bill passed, there are some 46,000 infrastructure projects occuring right now across america. Trump, when he had the house and the senate couldn't get it done, he paid lip service to it.

    Biden/Obama brought health care to some 18,000,000 people.

    Trump and his republicans tried 60 times to kill it, without a replacement.

    Trump left the nation in chaos when Biden took over. he brought us normalcy.

    Trump undermined and tried to destroy many of america's institutions, hell, half the state department was unmanned, have the ambassadorships were unmanned. His debts were a threat to national security.

    Trump was a total disaster.
     
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    yeah, you guys criticize Dems for 'weaponizing the gov' and here you are recommending it, let's investigate the guy who put a bad guy in jail, just because he was a republican.

    Nice going, turtledude.
     
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    Still got to get your shot at victumhood in I see. In reference you know nothing about me.
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     

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