Trumpism and conspiracy theories: the two inseparable

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Misleading as Trump is not 'the source' in ultimate terms, but A SOURCE of corruption and lack of Trust. Given that he was president, during his tenure, he was THE SOURCE, indeed. To wit (quoted from one of my previous comments):

    [Consider that] Kushner got a half a billion bail out from QATAR and Ivanka get millions of dollars worth of Trademarks ( one on coffins, I'll bet she is prospering during covid ) from China WHILE daddy was negotiating with China, never mind the extreme NEPOTISM in his white house. ANd we won't mention the hundreds of millions he has bilked the American Taxpayer for the RNC, his Mar a lago golfing, etc., never mind his shaking down Zelinsky for help with his campaign, never mind his asking Chinese leader to help him with his campaign, never mind is administrations extreme violation of the hatch act using the white house, the people's house ( owned by taxpayers ) as a political prop, never mind his complete and utter disregard for the rule of law while paying lip service to being a 'law and order' president, never mind all that, because republicans are complicit as they don't give a damn. And we won't mention is defrauding 5000 people and forced to pay out $25 million in a class action suit for a fake university, nor will I mention his having to close down his charity and pay a $2 million fine for 'illegal activity ( using charity funds for personal expenses) and his paying off a porn star and a play boy playmate hush money, and throwing his long time lawyer under the bus who is now serving time for his crimes, we won't mention any of these things, eh?
     
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    I think when a man is sitting in the latrine of his own making, he shouldn't be blaming the smell on somebody else. Seeing that everyday with this administration and the MSM.
     
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    For example?
     
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    I hate Trump's policies almost as much as I hate Trump. I don't respect anybody who respects anything about him including how he "supported" the USA, which in fact he didn't.
     
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    Almost any "truth" related to politics.
     
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    And if you research that fact, the truth can be established and "alternative facts" can be debunked. I stand by my statement: opinions based on lies are not valid opinions.
     
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    Muh Rushan Clooshun lies and 57 genders prove far more that liberals are divorced, almost entirely, from reality.
     
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    Peanuts compared to the lunatic conspiracy theories promoted by Trumpism. Not even close.
     
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    Another factless "retort" from the left.
     
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    I'm to the right of Trumpists on economics, and we both know why you couldn't point to anything incorrect in my response.
     
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    Correct. You made no specific claims - just a general statement of opinion. So no, there's nothing substantive in your post to address at all.
     
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    I appreciate your admission that your claim that it was "factless" was nonsensical. And I'm glad we can now both see why our knee jerk reaction claiming that anything critical of Trump and his followers is "left" is silly.

    My claim was that Trumpists have spread many, many more conspiracy theories. Would you like examples? I didn't want to do anyone the disservice of assuming that they were unaware of that fact, but if you want to pretend to be unaware, I can provide more details.
     
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    Your claim was factless. That you're dishonest and can't read my post is not my problem..

    Mu Rushan Clooshin was false. Simple fact.
     
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    The fact is that the Trump campaign, in the very least, attempted to collude with Russia. They were told that Russia wanted to help their campaign, and they pursued this. This is an undeniable fact. They also passed polling information to Russia. It probably didn't go further than that, that's true, but there is still more to that than there is to Trump's own conspiracy theories. Simple fact. I understand that the religious worship of Trump prevents you from acknowledging the fact that his conspiracy theories were more nutty than a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide. I'd ask if you want examples, but we both know you are incapable of addressing those. That you can't come to terms with reality is not my problem.
     
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    Nope. Hillary colluded with a Russian. Dishonest liberals keep making the claim that Manafort broke the law by giving irrelevant polling data to a Russian who was a source for the Obama State Department.

    Further proof that liberals are chronically dishonest.
     
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    If you have anything to say about my post, say it. I'm not interested in playing interpreter.
     
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    Please familiarize yourself with the facts. I'd rather not tutor you, but if I have to, I guess I will. I had promised myself I wouldn't do that for free anymore, but apparently that's what is required for participating in this forum now. At least try learning about the Trump Tower meeting before I waste my time trying to get Trumpists to acknowledge the existence of reality.
     
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    Manafort's contact was a Obama State Department source. Fact.

    There ya go. A simple fact liberals cannot deal with.

    Funny you're ignorant enough to bring up the Trump Tower meeting, which Hillary's consultant arranged. But hey, if you want to incriminate Hillary, then it is relevant.
     
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    The Mueller report denies your "undeniable fact".
     
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    Why are you changing the subject to Manafort's contact? And why would that change the facts? Why can't you engage in the conversation without making up **** about the "liberals"?
     
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    What about the Mueller report contradicts what I've said? Quote it. It'll be cute.
     
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    You -saw- the quote.
     
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    Mueller omitted that Hillary's campaign violated campaign finance laws and funneled money through a law firm to hire a Russian to "dig up dirt" he later disavowed.

    Mueller was the quintessential liberal tool. Pay me some money and I'll fart the national anthem.
     
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    I need actual facts, not overactive imagination.
     

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