I'm happy for you that your insurance companies are doing well, but I don't think consumers on the individual market are.
Then you don't understand what an HSA is. The government doesn't fund them, you do. The government is offering a tax benefit to do that saving, but you must save the money first to collect the benefit. And then that money is earmarked for a single purpose. If we have every american put $10,000 into an HSA, that takes money directly form the overall economy and earmarks it for healthcare only. That and the fact that 95% of americans don't have $10,000 to just let sit for a rainy day. If they did savings in this country would be much greater than it is. HSA's are a bait and switch. We need to stop talking about how we are going to pay for healthcare, and start talking about how we are going to control costs.
The average consumer contribution toward an exchange plan this year is about the same this year as it was last year. That's how the affordability tax credits work. Meanwhile, the markets get more stable every year. But hey, keep up the death spiral watch.
That means you didn't listen to Sanders last night on CNN. And no one, not even President Obama, has EVER pretended that ACA was "perfect!" It is a work in progress, and the progress were impeded by the constant push back of the Right! Stop uour hypocrisy and "alternate facts" rant. You are fooling no one but imbeciles.
As I've said previously in this thread, if there is no death spiral there is no urgency to fix anything in health care.
No kidding. Notice how the GOP spent 2 weeks on the issue and then decided "eh forget it, let's move on"?
What will the next month of Donnie in the White House bring us? The last 61 days have been torturous enough for the world....
SHLONGED!Following Trump's high-profile display of impotence in making a deal with the GOP-run Congress, it is now incumbent upon him to control his hysterical twittering. If he resorts to wild accusations and contumacious effusions in a desperate effort to dump blame elsewhere, he may well be alienating those very same folks he will need as allies if he is to enact any of his other priorities. He might do well to view his defeat as a blessing in disguise, the fortuitous avoidance of legislation that would have betrayed his most devout and needy fans as he stroked the very same fat cats with whom he cavorts. Congressmen who aided and abetted him would be gob-smacked silly in 2018. All the berserkers in Congress can do now, is refuse to make the necessary adjustments in the ACA, a delinquency they have practiced relentlessly for seven years. As Americans endure the Republicans' "benign neglect", the do-nothing legislators can harken back to the reform's passage and indulge themselves in a Pontius Pilate lavabo. It looks, initially, as if Trump recognized the pitfalls of such lassitude: So far, he's flirting with reality: President Trump hinted Saturday that overhauling ObamaCare is still alive, perhaps through a bipartisan deal, following the effort’s dramatic and seemingly terminal failure a day earlier. Meanwhile, those elite fat cats lust after, if not a free ride from Trump, a heavily-discounted one, under a tax policy that will even further widen the growing gap between rich and poor. Unless he can decouple, he has just driven his barrel-ass locomotive into a wall far more real than his Mexican maginot line, and the legislative coal car, box cars, and caboose will imitate a cheap accordion unless he can stop the momentum. Toot, toot.
Hmmm.... I recall some 8 years ago when Obama left Congress to put together the ACA. Republicans criticized him for not being more involved but still blamed him for the result. Trump may think he can hide from his constituents by blaming the Congress but he's the one who promised "repeal and replace" on day 1.
You don't need to work hard to convince me that Trump is both a sociopath and knows absolutely nothing about health care. As for the rest of the GOP, the extreme disconnect between their rhetoric ("this is a nightmare, the world is ending!") and their actions ("let's move on to something more important") should tell you all you need to know about where things really stand. Unless you're arguing they're all sociopaths with no business governing. I'm more generous, I think they're just disingenuous.
Why would you want to replace it? I can only conclude that you want no healthcare since you believe it will fail. Do you want no healthcare system in place? I hate to tell you this, the DNC has no say in the "law". Perhaps you believe that they have and are in power since nothing has been achieved by the current government in the last 64 days apart from the leader having yet another holiday weekend.
Oh I agree that if you're part of the establishment, or fancy yourself as part of it, then it's been a nightmare. Establishment pain is my joy.
I think they're just being pragmatic, not sociopaths( ). After Obama started engaging on Obamacare in the summer of 2009, the debate on healthcare ate up almost a year and a half when the Congress and the administration was more or less paralyzed while trying to get this done. If you don't have a bill that can get through the House, I think Trump wants to drop it and move on to something else. You should be happy, Obamacare is getting a reprieve.
I very pleased. They're not going to throw those 24 million people off their coverage. But I'm concerned that folks seem to believe the strategy now is to inflict as much pain as possible so they can get another crack at dumping those people down the road. That's not pragmatism, it's sociopathy.
If there is no death spiral and Obamacare is wonderful, then there is no pain being inflicted now. You seem like you want to have it both ways, Obamacare is great, there's no death spiral, and doing nothing punishes the people who are on it. Pick a side.
Obama lambasted? Where ? Maybe by a few guys and gals on here , but the MSM would never lambasted their main man . Surely you joke .
There isn't a death spiral and won't be barring active sabotage, that's an actuarial fact. That doesn't mean the administration can't inflict pain on people and try to undermine the marketplaces. They may well try to create a death spiral to get what they want (whatever that is) if what you're arguing is true.
I have posted more than a dozen times I have never been in favor of repeal and replace, I even posted it in the post you're quoting! As for the 64 days, the fact that Trump cant even get his cabinet filled because of DNC obstruction speaks volumes to that! Folk on the left need to slow their roll, 64 days is very little time in Washington, to think there should be is unrealistic. Of course we don't have a network of propagandist that spin nonsense into achievements like Obarry first 100 days We now know that "Shovel ready wasn't quite ready" Failed Failed miserably Failed Miserably Laughable fail LMAO! yes you read it right TONE! The MSM were so stretched they actually considered his ability to talk turd an accomplishment Keep in mind this garbage was posted in his first year and then edited in 2011 after most of the crap he managed did fail and then eventually all but a few even survived!
Huh? You posted that Obamacare will fail and also posted that you don't want it replaced. So, again, I can only conclude that you want no healthcare system since you believe Obamacare will fail. I'll ask again, do you want no healthcare system in place? You have also ignored the fact that the DNC have no say in the law. You then blame the DNC again - when are 'you' going to take some responsibility - you are in government and control all houses Then you write some inane irrelevant spiel about Obama, Trump (and his 100 day plan) is the topic.
I'm not sure Ryan ever really wanted the Speaker job. I think he took it out of loyalty and a sense of duty, but I think he is better suited to be a strong voice in the caucus, but not for the top job. I think he should step aside and let the membership vote on Newt taking the Speakership back over and shepherding the President's agenda through the House. Newt Gingrich: What you do know is that Donald Trump is a very smart guy. He just went through an experience that wasn’t what he was told. He had been told that everything was under control. The leadership could deliver. He could come in at the very end and close the deal. And it got to be a total mess. I guarantee you if this had been one of his hotels, one of his buildings, one of his golf courses, there’d be a lot of personnel changes tonight.
