Tucker Carlson starts to divulge the Capitol video tapes

I do value the truth. Shouldn't be hard to understand if you read my last post. Where are you getting lost?

 

No I have not. But I'm not willing to make a claim absent evidence. There's always a possibility that it was, but I sure would like to hear from someone inside testifying to it with proof.

 

Since you value the truth, why not call out our president for his Sicknick lie without deflecting?

Here is the sourced quote I linked above for you, once again, in case you missed it:

"That's a ridiculous comparison," Biden said. "It's one thing for literally criminals to break through cordon, go into the Capitol, kill a police officer, and be held unaccountable than it is for people objecting and marching on the Capitol and saying, 'You are not allowing me to speak freely. You are not allowing me to do A, B, C, or D.'"

While you're at it, Go ahead call them all out for their lies since you value the truth. (from the Yahoo article linked above in the thread)

"White House press secretary Jen Psaki claimed in May that there were “a number of officers” who died the day of the Capitol riot, and a bipartisan Senate report claimed this month that three police officers “ultimately lost their lives” as a result of the storming of the Capitol."

 

I'm happy to answer that question in a thread where that is topical. I'm a little tired of people baiting me into off-topic stuff like this and then getting my posts deleted. I will have this discussion. I will not have it on a thread where it isn't topical. As my dad would say, this ain't rocket surgery.

See above.

 

It's on topic. Sicknick is very much a part of the videos that Tucker Carlson showed on his show. The lies told about Sicknick's injuries and subsequent death from natural causes is very much topical. The president, his press secretary and the committee lied about the alleged "killings by the rioters".

There needs to be no other thread. No one is baiting you. I am asking you to prove that you value the truth. If your posts are getting deleted, that is a topic for the MODS and ironically, not for this thread.

You are dodging.

 

I've addressed Sicknick and his death. Biden isn't on-topic. Deal with it. I've told you I'm willing to discuss it if you tag me in a thread where it is on-topic. I will not otherwise. If you claim that you want to talk about it but will not tag me in a thread where it is on-topic, then you are the one dodging.

 

There will be no evidence, one way or another, in the absence of an investigation...

 

Investigations typically require some level of evidence in the first place. "I saw a scewy YouTube video" doesn't typically cut it. Many people looked into these ridiculous claims. They found nothing of substance.

 

Well, let's hope the current House investigates it. I like to know how deep the fraud goes. Even Barr claimed there was fraud, but not enough to change the election. Ok, but exactly how much fraud was there? Did he say?

 

Biden absolutely is part of the topic since he is on record mischaracterizing the death of Officer Sicknick. He did that to score political points, and since you value the truth, you should probably call him out and acknowledge the facts.

I am on topic and I deal with my posts the way that "I" see fit and in accordance with the O/P's thread premise. Read the first post, and think again, if you want to write that I am off topic. I am very much on topic.

^^^ Back on topic. The video tapes clearly contradict Biden's lie that capitol protestors "killed" Officer Sicknick. It's understandable how someone who is a partisan wouldn't want to acknowledge this truth though. It's understandable how someone who is in the tank for the anti-Trump 1/6 kangaroo court wouldn't want to have the public come to a different understanding.

Is there a reason you keep repeating the above? It's not like I haven't seen it written a couple times already. If you don't want to talk about the thread topic, then why do you keep responding to me, attempting a derail of the thread topic?

 

Just when we thought right-wing crackpots couldn't get more desperate with their election denial campaign, they now best themselves by falling prey to Tucker Carlson's positing of the J6 rampage as nothing more than a 'peaceful guided tour'.

Even Republican lawmakers are denouncing Carlson's obviously insincere take on the J6 incident.

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'Bulls---': GOP senators rebuke Tucker Carlson for downplaying Jan. 6 as 'mostly peaceful'
https://www.aol.com/news/bulls-gop-senators-rebuke-tucker-170546161.html

“I think it’s bullshit,” Tillis told reporters in the Capitol. “I was here. I was down there, and I saw maybe a few tourists, a few people who got caught up in things,” he added. “But when you see police barricades breached, when you see police officers assaulted, all of that ... if you were just a tourist you should’ve probably lined up at the visitors’ center and came in on an orderly basis.” [...]

Asked whether House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., made a mistake by giving thousands of hours of Jan. 6 video exclusively to Carlson, McConnell declined to criticize his fellow GOP leader, saying, “My concern is how it was depicted." [...]

“Clearly the chief of the Capitol police correctly described what most of us witnessed on Jan. 6,” added McConnell, who declined several times to criticize McCarthy.

Cramer said McCarthy could have given the video to “all sources equally,” rather than “one who is particularly good at conservative entertainment.”

Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, said it’s “really sad to see Tucker Carlson go off the rails like that,” saying he’s “joining a range of shock jocks that are disappointing America and feeding falsehoods.The American people saw what happened on Jan. 6." Romney told reporters. "They’ve seen the people that got injured. They saw the damage to the building. You can’t hide the truth by selectively picking a few minutes out of tapes and saying this is what went on. It’s so absurd. It’s nonsense. The program conveniently cherry-picked from the calmer moments of our 41,000 hours of video,” [...]

Manger wrote in the letter, which was obtained by NBC News. “The commentary fails to provide context about the chaos and violence that happened before or during these less tense moments.”
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How do we know Carlson was being insincere & didn't believe his own J6 rhetoric? Because his own correspondence records reveals his past insincerity & true feelings about Trump, and the need to "pretend" on FOX News. It's all about ratings, job, status, and money. No one on FOX really cares about Trump. Only Trump's voters love him, while everyone else is looking to capitalize on what they feel they can gain from America's cult leader.

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'I hate him passionately’: Tucker Carlson was fed up with Trump after the 2020 election
https://www.aol.com/news/private-fox-news-text-messages-225128312.html

On Jan. 4, 2021, Fox News host Tucker Carlson was done with Donald Trump.

"We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can’t wait," he texted an unidentified person.

"I hate him passionately. ... I can’t handle much more of this," he added.

By this time, Fox News was in crisis mode. It had angered its audience when it correctly said Joe Biden had won Arizona in the presidential election. Executives and hosts were worried about losing viewers to upstart rivals, most notably Newsmax.

The private comments were a far cry from what Carlson's viewers were used to hearing from the stalwart conservative host on his prime-time show every night.

“We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest,” he wrote in another text message, referring to the "last four years." “But come on. There isn’t really an upside to Trump.”

The revelation is in hundreds of pages of testimony, private text messages and emails from top Fox News journalists and executives that were made public Tuesday, adding to the trove of documents that show a network in crisis after it alienated core viewers by reporting accurately on the results of the 2020 presidential election.

A judge unsealed the documents, along with parts of some employee depositions, as part of Dominion Voting Systems’ $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News.

The messages are blunt and, at times, profane, as hosts and top executives panicked about how to boost their ratings as Trump refused to acknowledge his defeat. The depositions, meanwhile, offer the broadest picture yet of how executives including Fox Corp. Chairman Rupert Murdoch allowed baseless conspiracy theories to flourish on air.
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The topic isn't about Biden. I'm sorry you refuse to read. If you are so concerned and aren't just using this to troll, then tag me in a thread where Biden is the topic. We both know why you are dodging and won't do so.

 

Biden is part of the topic. The Sicknick video Tucker Carlson showed the public proves Sicknick wasn't KILLED by the rioters. If you don't want to acknowledge that he lied about Sicknick's death for political gain, so be it. No skin off my nose.

 

Biden is not the topic. And Carlson's videos do not prove that Sicknick wasn't killed by rioters. If you can't come to terms with basic facts, no skin off my nose.

 

Do you think Sicknick was killed by the rioters like Biden does?

 

I think that the events of that day likely contributed to his condition. Which is what the coroner said. I don't think it was a coincidence that he passed out hours after the attack and died the next day. I also think that it was bad that he was physically assaulted by the rioters and that this would have been a bad thing even if he had survived. Why do you disagree?

 

No ...reasonable suspicion is required to start and investigation.. there is more than enough reasonable suspicion to start one...

The Twitter files should be investigation for our own government interfering in our election just like Russia was...Elon should go to jail for spreading lies about the government if he made it all up.

The 2000 mules should be investigated and Dinesh D'Souza thrown in jail for spreading false election propaganda

And the other many signed affidavit under the penalty of perjury off people making false claims about what they saw.. Throw them all in jail for perjury...

Bill Barr ordered election fraud investigations... seems a FOIA request for those investigation reports turned up no document of ANY investigations in multiple states... has anyone looked into why Barr's order did not happen?

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Here's the question again. Do you think Sicknick was killed by the rioters like Biden does? A yes or no is all that is necessary.

 

New to you perhaps, but not to prosecutors or the DOJ or the January 6th committee. The clips are not showing when the crime occurred and Tucker is giving a very wide berth where you can fit 13 Nimitz/Ford Class aircraft carriers from one end to the other in what he is not showing to try to change the narrative. His misinformation is that "Democrats and the DOJ lied" to further the so-called weaponization of the government argument. But it won't work except for the desperate who so want not to look at true reality. Just remember, Fox News got caught red-handed, even admitted by Rupert Murdoch himself in a disposition, that they knew the election arguments by Trump were a complete lie. So is this one by Tucker, except it is being called under a different name by Fox.

Let's step back here for a moment and use a real hypothetical. A store has security cameras and a person at a specific time went into the store and robbed the place, took the money, and ran. Do you really think the security was only rolling for that specific time period? Do you think the detectives will only look at the time when the robbery actually took place? And yet, when the person is identified, caught, and is being tried, do you think either the defense or the prosecution is going to solely focus on events that were NOT when the person robbed the store?

And before you decide to respond with a quirky remark, both the January 6th footage and the real-world hypothetical I gave you are the exact same thing. The only difference is January 6 had over 1000 people in multiple entrances and multiple locations compared to a single person in a single location.

 

The Twitter files show nothing of substance so far. But playing make believe that they prove anything isn't a crime.

Anyone who didn't turn off their brain can see the vast problems with that fake "documentary," which are already well-covered. But it isn't a crime to be an idiot. D'Souza is a criminal for other reasons.

That rarely happens.

I'm sorry that you are mad that Barr showed enough intelligence and integrity to not fall for this bull ****.

 

It is supposed to be under the "weaponization committee." Rep Jim Jordan just hasn't got around to it yet and having problems establishing his basis with his so-called whistleblowers who seem to be not whistleblowers.

 

I think that the events of that day likely contributed to his condition. Which is what the coroner said. I don't think it was a coincidence that he passed out hours after the attack and died the next day. I also think that it was bad that he was physically assaulted by the rioters and that this would have been a bad thing even if he had survived. Why do you disagree?

 

I already read this. It doesn't answer my question, Do you think Sicknick was killed by the rioters like Biden does?

 

Why was it not covered by the Select Committee? They claimed the election was not stolen without proof one way or another it was or was not..

 

I've answered your question. Please read the answer. I've posted it twice and you still refuse to read it. If you find anything confusing about it, let me know. I have nothing more to add and I would prefer to stay on topic.