Tucker Carlson starts to divulge the Capitol video tapes

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    There is no evidence it was stolen. The idiots saying it was stolen have the burden of proof. And the select committee didn't cover Jordan's fake "whistleblowers" because they had no info about the fake "whistleblowers." That only came out recently, after Jordan did everything he could to delay that info coming out.
     
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    Do you think Hillary killed the Americans in Benghazi? A simple yes or no will suffice.
     
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    Again, Tucker Carlson started his program with the most damaging clips documenting violence on J6.
    The new video was exculpatory evidence that has apparently been illegally withheld from defense counsel.
    See Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963)
    Carlson always hits hard, and his opposition can't seem to stop walking right into his punches.
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Truth. LMAO


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    Wouldn't the burden of truth also apply to those who mischaracterize the death of Brian Sicknick? There is no evidence that criminals broke through cordon, went into the Capitol, to kill a police officer. Good for the country that Tucker Carlson disproved the claims of lying politicians wishing to advance a fake agenda.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As long as Biden has something to say relative to 1/6 he becomes part of the discussion. You're spot on topic.
     
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    Because the January 6th committee was looking at possible crimes being committed and the reasons why it did and who instigated it. Their investigation was more encompassing than the DOJ who only investigated the crimes that could be determined through the footage. Kinda stupid if you want them to focus on video footage while watching the grass grow in the Mall, so to speak.
     
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    Rahm Emanual would be so proud. Yeah, that old Biden learned well to never let a good crisis, I mean "insurrection" go to waste.
     
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    That video has to be exculpatory which is the foundation of Brady v Maryland Let me elucidate you. Person X was seen on capitol video entering the Capitol Building. Person X decides to plead not guilty and go to trial. Trial comes. There are 15 minutes of him on that video that law enforcement has identified as him committing the act. that video is exculpatory under the SCOTUS decision you are referring. There are other videos from other cameras that show he did not do anything wrong or could be identified. So the DOJ is not using that video to prove their case, which means, it is not exculpatory. Hence, only 15 minutes of video is given to the defense counsel since the other video in question is not being used or relevant to the case. Prosecutions do not make the jobs easier for the defense. Just fair for the defense for the charges in question.

    Hence, Tucker is giving illegal legal advice on his show, also a crime IMO, if you want to go the conservative route. But it shows that Tucker is being extremely selective in his release and trying to make irrelevant video somehow relevant while ignoring the 500 plus who have pled guilty and the 30 or so who have been tried and found guilty of their peers.
     
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    FOX's head & top hosts don't believe their own lies, but they need to keep lying & keep their sad charade going to maintain their viewer base & advertising revenue.

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    How a civil war erupted at Fox News after the 2020 election
    https://www.npr.org/2023/03/08/1161694400/fox-news-lawsuit-civil-war-ingraham-hannity

    Excerpts:

    In private notes to one another, Fox's top stars spat fire at their reporting colleagues who debunked Trump's claims of election fraud, even as they gave those allegations no credence. "We are officially working for an organization that hates us," said prime-time host Laura Ingraham.

    The fury from the top was palpable. "I hate our Decision Desk people!" Fox Corp. boss Rupert Murdoch wrote on Nov. 7, the night the networks projected Biden would prevail nationally. He confided to Col Allan, the editor of his tabloid paper, The New York Post: "Just for the hell of it still praying for Az to prove them wrong!"

    Carlson wrote he didn't trust attorney Sidney Powell, who appeared on Fox repeatedly to allege Dominion committed fraud against Trump. Ingraham called her "a bit nuts."


    "I can't keep defending these reporters who don't understand our viewers and how to handle stories," Scott wrote. "The audience feels like we crapped on [it] and we have damaged their trust and belief in us."


    Yet they reserved their anger for their reporting colleagues, mocking, for example, Arnon Mishkin, the director of the Fox News Decision Desk. "Mishkin always made my skin crawl," she texted the other two prime-time hosts.


    "100%," Fisher wrote. "I'm being punished for doing my job. Literally. That's it."


    How much of the network's ratings "bleed is due to anger at the news channel?" Ingraham asked, adding "My anger at the news channel is pronounced."


    "It should be," Carlson responded. "We devote our lives to building an audience and they let [Fox News Sunday host] Chris Wallace and [correspondent and anchor] Leland f------ Vittert wreck it."


    "Let's be honest," Hannity joked. "Without Chris Wallace where would we be? We owe him everything."

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    Rupert Murdoch says Fox stars 'endorsed' lies about 2020. He chose not to stop them
    https://www.npr.org/2023/02/28/1159...ion-voting-rupert-murdoch-2020-election-fraud

    "Dominion's lawsuit has always been more about what will generate headlines than what can withstand legal and factual scrutiny," according to a statement released by a spokeswoman on behalf of Fox Corp. and Fox News.

    Asked by a Dominion attorney whether "Fox endorsed at times this false notion of a stolen election," Murdoch demurred, saying, "Not Fox, no. Not Fox. But maybe Lou Dobbs, maybe Maria [Bartiromo] as commentators."
    The lawyer pressed on. Did Fox's Bartiromo endorse it?
    Murdoch's reply: "Yes. C'mon."
    Fox News host Jeanine Pirro? "I think so."
    Then-Fox Business Network host Dobbs? "Oh, a lot."
    Fox News prime-time star Sean Hannity? "A bit."
    Pressed whether they endorsed the narrative of a stolen election, Murdoch finally gave in: "Yes. They endorsed."


    Dominion lays out Murdochs' hands-on role at Fox News after the election

    Emails and other communications introduced into the case by Dominion reflect deep involvement by the Murdochs and other Fox Corp. senior figures in the network's editorial path.

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    Off the air, Fox News stars blasted the election fraud claims they peddled
    https://www.npr.org/2023/02/16/1157558299/fox-news-stars-false-claims-trump-election-2020

    Off the air, the network's stars, producers and executives expressed contempt for those same conspiracies, calling them "mind-blowingly nuts," "totally off the rails" and "completely bs" — often in far earthier terms.

    The network's top primetime stars — Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity — texted contemptuously of the claims in group chats, but also denounced colleagues pointing that out publicly or on television.

    Fox leaders worried turning away from false allegations of voter fraud would hurt their brand

    A team led by then-Fox Corp. senior vice president Raj Shah, formerly a White House aide to Trump, warned other top corporate leaders of a "Brand Threat" after Cavuto's refusal to air McEnany's White House press briefing on baseless claims of voter fraud.
     
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    He, and his adoring lackeys said so much about the "MAGA" "insurrection" prior to the midterms, how could we miss it? Got to get as much mileage as they can against those who threaten their own power.

    You watch, they won't let this go, and it will again be the Democrats' main issue going toward the 2024 election. I never believed their rank talking points and neither did most who were really paying attention. For many that's what gave it all away as just another political witch-hunt.

    I never believed their trumped-up crap that democracy was attacked, under threat and that Trump tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Republicans better come up with something better than "Democrats bad for the economy" if they hope to win. Even though the majority of voters thought the country was going in the wrong direction they still pushed democrats over the finish line. The democrats campaigned on the Trump connection and won. I'm not sure the current investigations the House is conducting will move the needle. I think it's going to take a crisis on the watch of Biden to do that. But the Republicans are junior league when it comes to taking advantage of a crisis. The only thing close to one is the border issue. How many more Americans need to die before Americans wake up and say "Enough already!"
     
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    The first line in your opinion piece I quoted below is a lie. Fox hasn't had millions of viewers peel away.
    From the NPR opinion piece:
    "The aftermath of the 2020 presidential election sparked a civil war within Fox News, as the network that had spent years building record profits and ratings by catering to fans of then-President Donald Trump saw millions of those viewers peel away."

    I can prove it too. Here you go. Read some facts, for current year 2023 and go back years from there.
    "Fox News Continues to Dominate Ratings As Two Shows Bring Over 3 Million Viewers Each (ijr.com)
    Fox averaged 2.45 million total viewers throughout the entire day compared to 1.25 million for MSNBC and 582,000 for CNN."

    “Tucker Carlson Tonight” garnered three times the 663,000 viewers watching “Anderson Cooper 360,” which is CNN’s top-rated primetime program."


    2022 ratings fared just as well.

    The proof is here:
    No other cable show could compare to their climb in ratings.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjo...s-ratings-as-cnn-msnbc-have-worst-years-ever/

    As a matter of fact from 2015-2021, take a close look at the rankings below.
    Fox News tops yearly ratings rankings | The Hill

    "Fox News was the most watched cable news channel in America for the sixth consecutive year in 2021."
     
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    I completely agree.
    The Republicans were and still are a very divided party and that's the reason Democrats capitalized but I'm not sure if going to the well twice with their phony "insurrection" democracy is at stake platitudes will work again. I think the border is weighing heavy, the drugs and cartels, with a lot of Americans regardless of their politics.

    I also think people are getting fed up with the expectations and entitlement coming from the woke elites. Parents want to raise their kids without the constant interference coming from the patriarchal federal government.

    While the economy and inflation are extremely important to the voters, yes, it has to be something more. but there again, it also has to be more than orange man bad for the Democrats.
     
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    The burden of proof lies with those who collect such proof of a crime..... that is not you or me... please tell us where the "burden of proof" is locked up at... it is under the custody of the accused... do you expect the poll worker witnessing questionable ballots to steal one of the ballots and take it into court... ain't gonna happen..
     
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    So far, we have no evidence of the accusations you are mentioning. We have no evidence of widespread voter fraud. All we have are daydreams from that side. That's not going to cut it.
     
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    Sicknick being unhealthy (I don't know just presume) is the reason why Sicknick died.
     
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    Presumption noted. Meanwhile, he was assaulted. Is that bad?
     
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    Oh Bull ****. We are so sick of too many of the claiming that differences of view are crimes.

    https://jonathanturley.org/2023/03/...ce-raises-new-questions-on-the-chansley-case/

    Jonathan Turley asks:
    Did the “QAnon Shaman” Get Shafted on Sentencing? New Footage Raises Questions Over the Chansley Case?

    'the newly released Fox footage from that day raises serious questions over the prosecution and punishment of Chansley. The videotapes aired on Tucker Carlson this week show Chansley being escorted by officers through the Capitol. Two officers appear to not only guide him to the floor but actually appear to be trying to open locked doors for him. At one point, Chansley is shown walking unimpeded through a large number of armed officers with his six-foot flag-draped spear and horned Viking helmet on his way to the Senate floor.

    'It is otherworldly footage. While I admit that I approach these stories from the perspective of a long-standing criminal defense attorney, I would be outraged if I was unable to see such evidence before a plea or sentencing. At no point in the videotapes does Chansley appear violent or threatening. Indeed, he appears to thank the officers for their guidance and assistance.'

    'This was potential evidence in criminal cases like that of the QAnon Shaman.'

    'When the footage aired, I wrote a column raising the question of whether this evidence was known to or shared with Chansley’s defense. After all, he was portrayed as a violent offender by the Justice Department at his sentencing.'

    All this video shows clearly that he is NOT the violent man than the Dirt Bag Justice Department claimed he was at sentencing.
     
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    THIS NAVY VET DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THIS EVIDENCE.

    Jon Turley Continues:

    'The answer is no. I spoke with Chansley’s new counsel, Bill Shipley, and confirmed that defense counsel did not have this material.'

    The Lying Dirtbags of the DOJ's 'portrayal of Chansley would have been more difficult to maintain if the Court was allowed to see images of Chansley casually walking through a door of the Capitol with hundreds of other protesters and then being escorted by officers through the Capitol. At no point is he violent and at no point is he shown destroying evidence. Instead, he dutifully follows the officers who facilitate his going eventually to the unoccupied Senate floor.'

    'It was his costume, not his conduct, that' drove 'the sentencing.'

    'The QAnon Shaman was led through the Capitol by officers. Defense counsel could have noted that his “obstruction” in going to an unoccupied Senate floor was facilitated by officers. This is evidence of how Chansley came to the Senate. Indeed, his interaction with officers could have impacted how he viewed the gravity of his conduct. It certainly would have been material to the court in sentencing the conduct.'

    If Judge Lamberth would have been able to view this footage and compare it to the claims of the Lying Dirtbags of the DOJ who had the footage and knew that no one else did, the Judge would have 'found this footage material and frankly alarming.' Small wonder too many of these Leftists and collaborators in the massive Disinformation Attack on The American People are so alarmed that this footage is now, for the first time, being shown to the Free People of America.
     
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    What evidence did the prosecutors present showing he acted violently? I watched that video and only came away with the impression that he was weird, but friendly. The LEO definitely didn't appear threatened by him.
     
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    What violent crimes was he convicted for?
     
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    Oh nonsense. The FBI worked with Twitter and the Intelligence Agencies worked with all the news organizations to suppress the Hunter Biden Laptop story and the Biden Family Bribery schemes it detailed SPECIFICALLY to fix the 2020 election.

    Your screaming, BUT YOU CAN'T PROVE IT! isn't even true, it's a matter of record that we all saw unfold, with our own eyes, in real time.

    Musk Has the Best Response to McConnell's Criticism of J6 Footage

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    champion of free speech and transparency

    Musk in response to McConnell's sulking: 'I keep forgetting which party he belongs to.' McConnell is Uniparty Washington.
     
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    The FBI didn't make them do anything. They consulted. That's not illegal.
     
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    They showed a few second clip of him yelling, and withheld everything else, and used that to support the claim that he was dangerous and violent, which, he clearly isn't. And, he served in this nation's uniform.

    Tucker takes on The Turtle:

    "The Senate majority leader joins the Senate minority leader. [Sens.] Thom Tillis, Mitt Romney, they're all on the same side, so it's actually not about left and right, it’s not about Republican and Democrat," Carlson argued. "Here you have people with shared interests, the open borders people, the people like Mitch McConnell who are living in splendor on Chinese money, the people who underneath it all have everything in common are all aligned against everyone else…"
     
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