Twisting Scripture: The lies of Homosexuality.

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  1. Maxwell

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    What is God's will? What about lying, stealing, gluttony, drunkeness, etc.
     
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    That is placing your will before God's. I'm sorry I misunderstood. I didn't know you wanted examples. But yes such things are sins.
     
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    Yes, i agree those things are sins. They are considered sin because you and I know the Bible says they're sins. The Bible also says homosexual behavior is sin, yet you don't believe that, do you.
     
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    No, they were written in the bible because they are sins. You're putting the caboose in front of the engine. The bible really says no such thing.
     
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    Sooooo... You're going to deny the Saul/David/Jonathan homosexual triangle?

    [video=youtube;eJf3cqB3Pl0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJf3cqB3Pl0[/video]
     
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    Okay. So who determined they were sins? The Bible most certainly does say homosexuality is sin, and I gave you the Biblical references. I'm starting to see a pattern of denial and dishonesty here.
     
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    Of course. That's a lie. Make your case so I can destroy it.
     
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    The real question is, what does this have to do with gay and lesbian rights, the subforum you are in.
    We have a fairytale subforum, this belongs there.
     
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    Then put it there if you can.
     
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    God.

    It doesn't? I already explained that corinthians and Romans didn't mention homosexuality. They couldn't have they were written before the word homosexuality existed. And Leviticus was talking about temple prostitution.

    If all you are going to do is make ad hoc accusations because I don't agree with you, I think you weren't being genuine in the OP.
     
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    Leviticus says it is an abomination for a man to lie with another man as with a woman. Nothing there about temple prostitutes. Sin entered the world through Adam. Agree?

    Romans first chapter speaks of homosexual behavior and so does First Corinthians chapter six. You're mistaken

    Here is Romans chapter one. Read the entire chapter and you will clearly see there is mention of homosexuality being wrong behavior in God's eyes.
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1
     
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    [FONT=&amp]“Saul and Jonathan, beloved and lovely! [/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]In life and in death they were not divided; [/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]they were swifter than eagles, [/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]they were stronger than lions. [/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]How the mighty have fallen in the midst of battle! [/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]Jonathan lies slain upon your high places. [/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]I am distressed for you my brother Jonathan; [/FONT]
    Greatly beloved were you to me;
    your love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women.”

    [FONT=&amp](2 Samuel 1:23, 26-27)[/FONT]
     
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    So you see homosexuality there?
     
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    Do you not?
     
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    This is First Corinthians 6:9-11


    9 Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 10 or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people—none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. 11 Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
     
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    I'm not a mod or I would - but I am far from unbiased on the topic that you people think your belief structure should be enforced by rule of law, like isis does...

    Why do you feel your unsubstantiated and unlikely religious belief based on the word of man and edited by kings should have any bearing on gay rights? If it doesn't then why do you feel it belongs in this section?
     
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    Nope. They had a covenant with each other, not a sexual relationship.

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    Tell me the names of Republican lawmakers in congress that want to legislate against homosexuality.
     
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    Well or want written in modern english.
    Proverbially speaking yes.

    No it doesn't. It wasn't written in modern english.

    No it doesn't mention homosexuals. It mentions heterosexuals that give up what is natural to them to have homosexual sex.

    Homosexuality is natural to homosexuals and they didn't give up anything.
     
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    The New Testament Greek word in First Corinthians is translated "homosexuality".

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    This will help you understand the relationship of David and jonathan.
    http://coldcasechristianity.com/2012/were-david-and-jonathan-homosexual-lovers/
     
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    Uses of the Greek works "Malakoi" and "Arsenokoitai"
    (1 Corinthians 6:9-10) (1 Timothy 1:10)
    These words are included in the New Testament's lists of people who will not inherit God's kingdom. And there has been much debate over their original meaning. (Translating ancient words is hard, guys.) Some believe them to mean homosexuality and sodomy, whereas others have said that the closest modern translation would be "dirty old men."

    So not only is your belief in the word of god not evidenced, y'all have had to make up and twist words to fit your own narrative. Paul also spoke about women remaining silent in church and men not cutting their hair

    Homosexuality or words y'all have corrupted and turned into homosexuality, exist a total of 6 times. Adulatory is mentioned 49 times stretched across 60 passages. You don't even follow your own teachings - why should anyone else take you seriously?
     
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    Prove it

    Seriously? Let's see - all of the proponents of DOMA, DADT, and anyone wanting to place gay people in a special category that allows everyone to discriminate against them.

    3 of the republican candidates for potus were openly anti-gay.
     
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    It still wasn't written in modern english. The word "homosexual" didn't exist when the bible was written. So it couldn't have possibly said that.
     
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    This will help you understand.
    http://www.studyyourbibleonline.com/theology/homosexuality-what-does-1-corinthians-69-11-teach/
     
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