Twisting Scripture: The lies of Homosexuality.

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  1. robini123

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    Fair enough. So lets go back to something that you did say in post #3, that being "Discuss how homosexuals twist and deny Scripture." What is the boundary that separated an accurate interpretation of the Bible from the twisted interpretation of the Bible? Who gets to decide this for all and by what authority?
     
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    Meaningless. There is one Jesus. Jesus saves, not denominations.
     
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    Definitions of words. Many people interpret the bible with an agenda in mind. The Bible is actually about one person, Jesus Christ. The old testament was prophecy of Jesus and pictures. The new testament is the full picture of Him. If Jesus isn't everything in a Christian church, then it's not a true church. There are many wolves in sheep's clothing. Jesus warned about that.
     
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    What is it about Americas version of god and not liking gay people or young black people?

    I thought god was supposed to stand for good? If so, why is the American version of god such a spiteful c##t?
     
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    That's rather foolish to suggest, especially considering the context of much of the discussion taking place in this thread. Specifically, what did "Jesus" say about "homosexuality" per se? He certainly didn't fly off the handle about it (really, He didn't mention it at all). Many hypocrites and pitiful people in fear of their own sexuality today, certainly DO make a massive issue of people being homosexual; which is (as mankind is learning) far from being unnatural or uncommon. Certainly it is no real detriment to a well-adjusted human being.

    According to many Christian believers today (dependent upon denomination), one might think/believe homosexuality was the WORST thing, when that is nowhere near the truth. While homosexuality may defy social norms (in certain places) and some people's personal moral values... there is no universal interpretation of Christian scripture which prohibits it, nor calls for the type of 'exclusive' and 'harsh' persecution many Christians direct at homosexual or LGBTQ people. If the Bible were the measure of how we should be treating people for "sin"... then a LOT of people with 1 or more divorces, should be convicted and punished IMMEDIATELY (which is near half the human population).

    There are MANY interpretations of scripture which exist, thus 33,000 denominations and personal nuances amongst believers sitting in the same pews. Using the "Bible" as a type of 'hammer' to pursue rejection and/or persecution of people who happen to be different, doesn't seem to be in alignment with the things "Jesus" emphasized in this world overall. And this clamoring by many misguided people to target homosexual people in the name of God (by any name), typically ends up being dehumanizing, oppressive and hypocritical; things that surely won't lead more people to Jesus or greater 'spirituality'.
     
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    Jesus said marriage was male and female. Homosrxuality was an abomination in The Law and sin in Jewish culture. It was not accepted as an alternative lifestyle. It's not up to interpretation. The Bible is clear on the topic. Some choose to not believe Scriptue. There are authentic Christian churches and there are fake. It's always been that way.
     
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    That's hard to argue with.
     
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    Lol. Funny stuff. However, not really biblical perspective, just ignorant opinion.
     
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    Those are all laws in the old testament.
     
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    Yes, like I said, ignorant. Christians don't live under old testament law.
     
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    Except for Leviticus 18:22.
     
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    Like all laws in the Bible, they get to pick which laws apply to themselves and which apply to others.
     
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    Nope. The only religion still stoning homosexuals is islam. You're confused.
     
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    Homosexuality is still sin in the New Testament just like murder, lying, adultery, drunkeness, etc. Romans first chapter and First Corinthians chapter six. I don't expect any of you to acknowledge that fact because the truth destroys your agenda.
     
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    Just because you don't carry out the punishment doesn't mean you dint believe in the law. In fact you mentioned it before

    - - - Updated - - -

    I'm not going to say cerry picking is wrong. Everybody does it. I think it's good.
     
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    I don't believe in organized religion - I know there is a higher power that we cannot begin to comprehend but your version of a creator is so twisted and perverted it is insane.
    I have no agenda besides wanted to be treated equally - what is your agenda?
     
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    My agenda is Getting America back to being America again, and drowning out the screaming whining Christian hating homosexual mafia.
     
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    How does one read the Bible without an agenda? I argue if one reads the Bible with an open mind in an effort to learn what the Bible says, then the agenda is to become informed on what the Bible says.

    Which does nothing to answer my questions "What is the boundary that separated an accurate interpretation of the Bible from the twisted interpretation of the Bible? Who gets to decide this for all and by what authority?"

    Let me cut to the chase, it is subjective as there are many people who believe that theirs is the right interpretation of the Bible which is in conflict with many others who believe that theirs is the correct interpretation of the Bible. When you have millions of people claiming to have the right interpretation of the Bible and the interpretations conflict with one another, then how do you tell which is the right interpretation? If you believe that your interpretation is the correct interpretation then I say how convenient.

    It is easy for one to read the Bible and claim that theirs is the right interpretation, but the reality is that there are many millions if not over a billion varied interpretations of the Bible.
     
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    I understand exactly where you're coming from. Once again, the Bible is about Jesus. It's one big picture of the fall and depravity of sinful man and then forgiveness and redemption of mankind by the sacrifice God required and provided himself. Jesus. That's the story.
     
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    Maybe if you stopped trying to dehumanize us? Contrary to what you believe this is indeed a two way street.
    You are not going to be able to recriminalize homosexuality. Sorry :(
     
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    Straw man. No one is dehumanizing anyone. You have every right I have.
     
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    Currently, for the most part, we can still be terminated and denied housing but we have come far in the last generation.
    Not without a significant fight from you and your ilk.
     
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    If you understand where I am coming from then why not tell me "What is the boundary that separated an accurate interpretation of the Bible from the twisted interpretation of the Bible? Who gets to decide this for all and by what authority?"

    Dodge my question again and I will assume that you cannot or will not defend your previous claim that "homosexuals twist and deny Scripture." Tell me how they twist it, and what human authority gets to decide this for all humanity? If all you have is some subjective narrative of the Bible then do not bother replying as I am not interested in the subjective, I am interested in the objective that is adjudicated by a human authority in terms of the right and wrong interpretation of the Bible. If you say God gets to decide this, then through which specific human does God speak through in this matter?

    Cannot you admit that the right way to interpret the Bible is subjective as it all depends upon whom you ask? If you say yours is the right interpretation then how do you objectively prove that? I argue that all you have is subjective opinion, just like every other person who has ever read the Bible.
     
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    Very well stated
     

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