Two Americas Indeed.

I think real freedom, is moving someplace where you no longer live in fear.

Surround yourself with decent people.

Although if constantly around scum and fear being shot, then probably need a gun and bullets.

 

LOL, and all the criminals will just go away yet you fear those decent people that own a gun. Where is your unicorn?

 

Of course, but if surround yourself with people like subdermal, then i am not suprised need a gun to eventually shoot the idiots.

 

Petty personal attack aside, there is only one type of person that need worry about my gun, and that is a criminal.

You seem overly worried.

 

You live there.

The rest of us will live in reality.

 

But what 'reality' do you live in.

This is what i find puzzling with talks with pro gun nuts online. Do you not live in decent areas or you live in slums.

Why are you so paranoied with 'protecting' yourself to constantly talk about guns. Now some of you might live in crap holes to justify this level of fear. Although i have no idea until explain.

 

I live in a reality where I understand that bad people sometimes try to do bad things to other people.

What reality do you live in?

I'm quite sure that where I live blows away where you live.

You're the one talking about guns. I just responded. A 'nut' is someone who dismisses reality. Of the two of us, I'm not the one doing that.

 

No you responded to me, i was talking to another forum member.

You seem to live in fear with this constant 'gun' nonsense.

 

As is par for the course, an extreme liberal sees an issue and blames this issue on the wrong problem.

In 2009, there were 24,500 alcohol related deaths. Where is the outcry to ban alcohol?

In 2009, there were 36,000 motor vehicle related deaths. Where is the outcry to ban motor vehicles?

In 2009, there were 39,200 deaths caused by drugs. Do most liberals want to maintain the ban on drugs? No, they want to legalize them and make them more accessible.

In 2009, there were only 12,000 non-suicide deaths related to firearms. Less than half than deaths caused by alcohol.

Liberals seem to think people are not responsible enough to use firearms, but they are responsible enough to use motor vehicles, drugs, or alcohol, which cause almost 10 times the death.....go figure.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/deaths_2009_release.pdf

 

See Chicago.....

 

Ugh. Yes - and you were talking about your fear of guns.

You seem to live in fear of guns. Since I own several, I obviously do not fear guns.

You do.

 

I am nihilistic with guns, doesn't matter if they exist or not. For forums i find it amusing to read passionte views to 'protection'

As i said, only reason i can fathom. Why need these guns. Your enviroment must suck.

I will add, some do hunt who i spoke to on this forum. the only worthwhile use for them.

 

Zod: anyone with a pulse can see that you revile guns. Don't try to claim that you're ambivalent about them.

This forum is a daily exercise in scrutinizing the credibility of fellow posters. You do yourself no favors by trying to claim that which is obviously untrue.

Then your critical thinking skills are that of a Down's patient.

Obviously, that is not the case. Do you require more evidence that that is not the case?

Tough Targets

Read and learn what you have been propagandized to ignore.

 

Hmmm, From what i see, you are the one who is mentally ill.

Personanly i don't really care if you like guns or not, they do nothing for me. And to be lectured by sub standard americans?

Go and play with your guns, shoot yourself, do something constructive.

 

Why are we talking about Dooley? He wasn't involved in this case. Let's talk about the day I was getting gasoline at 5:00am when a drunken man came out of the store and asked why I was looking at him. I said that I wasn't looking at him I was just getting gas so the drunk said that he would come knock me down. I put a round in my 9mm Colt, laid it on the seat and resumed fueling my truck. The drunk took a step toward me and said that he would knock me down if I looked at him again so I told him I wasn't looking at him so he took another step toward me. At this point the liberal horde would have me jump in my truck and lock the doors or run away but what I did was to tell the drunk that he could come over if he wanted and I would see how much gasoline he could drink before I set fire to his ass with my pistol. After a few seconds for his brain to absorb that possibility he turned and went to his car.

After a Mexican gang killed one of my best friends in San Antonio they all went home with their guns and it took weeks to arrest the shooter. But the rest of the gang who were on a hunting party to stomp - they called themselves "The Stompers" - gringos were not arrested for anything and my friend was one of five people attacked at the time.

Most of the shooters of black kids are still on the street but the people who need to be able to protect themselves and their families are not gang bangers but the people who make this nation work. The people who create the wealth of our nation.

I have to say that this shooting in question sounds pretty bad for the shooter and if he was wrong to shoot - and it sounds like he was - then I hope he is tried and gets death.

It is meaningless in cases of self defense. How can a person know what his attacker is willing to do so the person attacked can return a proportional defense??

If one in a million people may attack you then you should have the right to defend yourself and your family.

Just yesterday we saw a video of two people who were robbed at their front door by five or six black guys. They were beaten and robbed of $30k in cash and other valuables. It was the second time they had been robbed. If the man had gotten out of his car with his hand on a 45APC and protected his wife as he backed into the house he would not have been beaten and robbed. It is a shame that people have to live that way and a bigger shame that the liberal horde has more concern for the criminals that end up getting shot or a person with a gun scares them off and they have to rob their own grandmother for drug money.

What a load. Do you close your eyes when you cross the street down town? Do you run and jump into the lake without looking to see if it has water? You must be the guy slatted on the bottom of an empty swimming pool.

Fear has nothing to do with defending your life and property. If you have a car, do you lock the doors when you get out are do you leave the keys in it?

What a joke. people who hate America because they are trapped in some society that is totally depleted of resources and can't see a way out love to tell us what to do.

 

Must be because of all of that criminal nonsense. I am sure wherever you live, you have conquered crime so you could never possibly be a victim of it or you live in a gated community that criminals will shun or that you never have any shootings. Just never happens where you live eh? No crime? No breakins?

 

It shoulden't happen where you live either.

 

Ah, it shouldn't happen. You live in unicorn land?

 

Nope, but i don't worry about it. Where do you live, in charles bronson land?

 

I don't worry about it either, I carry, but evidently you seem to be more worried about me than criminals. Glad to see they will all stay away from you because you are carefree.

 

It shouldn't happen, but it does, and the police are seldom available to help you at the time you need it.

I don't worry about it either, because I carry a gun. If I never need my gun, then that would be great. However, if I do need it, it won't do me any good being locked up in my safe at home.

 

Agree to disagree.

You like guns, i don't.

Still interesting on the views of protection and the sense of safety. But let me ask this. Would any of you feel just as safe without carrying a gun, or so used to it now. You feel, insecure.

 

I don't carry a gun to kill people.
I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

I don't carry a gun to scare people.
I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.

I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid.
I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.

I don't carry a gun because I'm evil.
I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.

I don't carry a gun because I hate the government.
I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.

I don't carry a gun because I'm angry.
I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.

I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.

I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.

I don't carry a gun because I love it.
I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.

Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.

Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.

 

I often do not carry. What's your point but to try to prove that someone is insecure without a gun. I am glad you feel secure knowing that you could never be a victim of crime or that unicorns will save you if you are. Unfortunately reality is not about feeling secure.

 

Johnny-C, it goes far beyond being "gun crazy". It even goes far beyond Second Amendment rights. It is something that is engrained into the main ideology of this country and it has to do with "maintaining control" of this nation. The more people see that they are losing a grip on the control that they once had, the more incidents of innocent people being threatened and murdered by those who "feel" threatened will occur.