Two Americas Indeed.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by toddwv, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    no, paranoia is not normal.

    that is basic.

    if it is "normal" in any given society, then that society will have a higher risk of incidents such as the shooting of a boy going to the store to buy candy.

    guns in a society where paranoia is "normal" is a dangerous mix.
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you lock your doors at night? If you do why? Paranoid? Ever heard of healthy paranoia?

    Sometimes paranoia's just having all the facts.
    William S. Burroughs
     
  3. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    actually, I often forget. I do remember to lock my door when I go out during the day however, as I know that this is when most break ins occur, as there are more opportunities for thieves in neighbourhoods when there are few people around during the day.

    This is not paranoia, which is IRRATIONAL fear, and is not the same as assessing risks and taking preventative action.

    you should read some basic facts to prevent you from misusing terms like that.
     
  4. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    In true republican style, I'll just say.."your boy started it". There...now..something republicans can understand in the childlike mindset that they're used to.
     
  5. GeneralZod

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    How do american liberals stand to be in the same country as republicans.

    The conservative mindset of john wayne gun paranioa, is annoying after a few minutes online. Nevermind sharing a nation with those psychopaths.

    Unfourantly, the usa liberals also need guns, to protect themselves from the conservatives.
     
  6. CanadianEye

    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will not take that as fact, "that NOT ONE of those Afriican-American Men are EVER allowed by Police to go home with their weapons after a shooting...."

    That is a pretty bold claim.
     
  7. submarinepainter

    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that is not thinking it is dreaming , dreaming of taking away liberties
     
  8. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fact is, no one is allowed by the Police to go home with their weapons after a shooting, even if it is not a shooting but the Police find one on you during an alleged crime. It is up to the discretion of the Police. You can go to the courthouse and get it back if you are not found guilty of anything.

    Like your sig. Found many FB friends popped up on it.
     
  9. CanadianEye

    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I get the procedure, but that wasn't the alleged fact presented.
     
  10. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I went back and read what he was responding to and it doesn't make any sense.
     
  11. CanadianEye

    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suppose if he had not capitalized and emphatically stated "EVER", I might have let it slide. Libs...give em an inch - they'll ruin your country. ;-)
     
  12. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I call that yell typing.
     
  13. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    What is dreaming? Are you telling me you can't answer the question?
    Should government give people the liberty to kill each-other regardless of the reason?
    Is having the liberty to kill people who are not threatening your life more important than life itself or not?
     
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    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    Will you ever start a thread without lying? I know that's a rhetorical question. It will never happen.
     
  15. submarinepainter

    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I honestly do not recall these questions , to answer no of course not , no one should be allowed to kill unless their life is in danger , on the other hand no one including the government should take away the means to defend oneself unless an individual has proven themselves unworthy .
     
  16. Meta777

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    I did bold them but whatever. I agree with your answer, it seems reasonable.
    And that is just one reason why I believe that it is unreasonable to place individual liberty above the right to life in all cases.
    When someone kills a person who is not being threatening or posing a real danger, then they are depriving that person of their life and liberty.
    If the government is truly there for the good of society as a whole, it should not allow such a thing to stand. The liberty to kill people without cause should not exist.

    Exactly which part of what you quoted was a lie?
     
  17. GeneralZod

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    Hey sub,

    Since you trolled me. Only fair i respond in kind.

    So what are you so fearfull of, to repeatedly explain your gun situation. Are you beaten up in real life, are you bullied.

    Need a 'gun to protect yourself. Or are you planning to to rob a 7/11.
     
  18. Subdermal

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    Putting up a poster which shows that Ghandi understood the value and importance of a well-armed society isn't trolling you, Zod.

    I wish to carry a gun for protection of myself, and others. It isn't a dumb position to hold.

    If you had read the report to which I linked, you'd understand. As for 'beaten up and bullied', that's silly. I have never once been beaten up in my life, and most people wouldn't look at me and think I'd be a viable target for any kind of bullying.
     
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    I'm not sure why you cannot wrap your mind around this, but if I rolled with your comments here, I'd have to ask you the following:

    If you think that liberals need guns to protect themselves from conservatives, why wouldn't both need guns to protect themselves from criminals?
     
  20. GeneralZod

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    I knew it, you are scared little american. Trying to act brave online with this gun nonsense.

    So who are these criminals you fear so much? Do they bully you?
     
  21. Subdermal

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    Pretty useless post, Zod. I don't own a gun because I cannot beat the sh!t out of pretty much anyone that needs it, I own a gun because that skill is of no use against someone else who is armed.

    Does that not compute with you? Maybe this will clue you in:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KwMK78idpA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KwMK78idpA[/ame]
     
  22. GeneralZod

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    No it does not commute, but this is international forum. Your view is alien to me. For me i never needed a gun.

    Although to be fair to your position, you are in a enviroment of out of control gun laws, so in a way you have to be armed.

    But saying that, i have no idea how it works when go out to clubs/pubs/bars etc...

    Do you carry all the time, what happens with searches, are you not allowed in? As i seen a idiot fire a gun in a clube before, it caused total hysteria, the armed police were called in to lock down the place.
     
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    You have seen an idiot fire a gun in a clube (sic) before? Yep, you certainly are not in any danger where you live.
     
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    It was only once. Old jungle club. Drugged up rasta smuggled a gun in, to fire it at the ceiling to salute a song, in the jamician tradition.

    Although any gun crime, the police go beserk and send in overwhelming responces.

    I asked, as clubs here are very hostile with weapons of any kind being allowed in. I am not sure how the carry guns works in america, when go out to enjoy oneself.
     
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    That has never happened to me but you don't need a gun where you live? Check.

    Every State has different laws. In most States you have to go to the court house, get fingerprinted, get an FBI background check, and carry the license with you at all times if you carry. Some states don't allow carrying in a bar but where I live, you can carry anywhere lawfully except the courthouse or in a school (which turn out to be free kill zones).

    Conceal Carry or just Carry licensees are not the problem but many here want to take that away because of their irrational fear of law abiding citizens. Criminals ignore the laws altogether and do what they want.
     

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