Two oil tankers struck in suspected attacks in Gulf of Oman

Maybe they should start using double lined tankers to avoid the risk of oil spills.

 

Most did not write books. Even the captain came clean as I recall.

 

The Duran talks about the torpedo attack.
Does anyone know if they were torpedos for sure? Anyone of board see them coming? Just curious.

 

They already are... I know of no ship built since the 50's being single hulled, even if it's just for balst and tank tub.

 

No, but many were approach by a group with vested interest in discrediting Israel for their testimonies.
Beside, no one is disputing that Israel commited the attack. What is disputed is the motive behind the attack. Those survivor have no way to know why the israeli attacked their ship.

 

The 2nd tanker hit was a German Tanker.

This is a false flag, Germany supports Iran and our foreign minister even visited them yesterday

 

Germany supports iran by closing shiite mosque and cutting public founding to iranian organisation. What would they do if they hated the iranian... March them off to death camp?

 

The survivors could only say what they saw and did, in detail. The Israeli explanations sound a lot like "The dog ate my homework."

I am pro Israeli BTW. IMO they screwed up big time here. IMO the attack was carried out knowing the ship was American.

 

https://www.rt.com/news/461807-pompeo-blame-iran-tankers-attack/
Pompeo blames Iran.

 

We trade with them, buy their oil and gas and protect them against american sanctions.

That we does not allow muslim **** in our country has nothing to do with this.

 

According to CNN's Barbara Star it was mines attached to the hull and one of the american warship's providing aid, reported spotting an unexploded mine on the hull.

While I have not doubt Iran is arrogant enough to cut of its nose to spite its face in the name of Allah and Al-Mahadi, I wouldn't put it past MSB to put up a false flag. Very convenient timing of the attack, especially against a japanese tanker while the Japanese were in tehran. Also very conveniently occurring days after Trump did that arms deal with the Saudis and immediately after a devasting gaff by trump admitting he'd actually engage in the stuff he's been accused of engaging in.

AFter the "gulf of Tonkin", and the "weapons of mass destruction" bullshit excuses I've lived thru, it isn't only a plausible possibility it has a statistically significant probability.

 

Except that muslim **** is directly linked to their supreme leader... Oooopsie.
We buy chinese **** all the time, doesn't mean we support or like them.

And as germany "protecting" someone, don't make me laugh. You don't even have the armed forces required to defend yourself and even less to project your military "might" accross thousands of miles.

 

The problem with Iran is that the government doesn't control all of their armed forces. The revolutionary guards are controlled marginally by the ayatollah, but I'm begining to suspect that there may be something of a powere grab by the higher up of the guard vis-a-vis both the gov and the ayatollah. Both of which may be slamming the break too hard on them post ISIS and Syria. And the fact that the sanctions are hurting them is also at play. Some may see an occasion of getting rid of both the present gov and the ayatollah.

 

We dont need too.

We have the economic power to keep any regime alive against american sanctions.

Remember who sold Iran the tech to hijack your droens and land them in Iran.

Also remember who sold Iran the technology to refine its own Uranium.

Most american soldiers killed by snipers in Iraq were killed by german sniper weapons. As 4th largest manufacterer of military equipment we deliver what certain groups demand.

We sold Saddam poison gas and the iranians gas masks.

Its good business.

 

So much fantasy...

 

You are free to prove the points i mentioned as wrong.

The Iranian uranium centrifuges, made by Siemens.

The Iraqi poison gas made by Karl Kolb.

I think we do great. War is good business. And as long no germans are hurt, its without victims.

 

Darn near every government, and many terrorist or criminal organizations, in the world has the resources to do this.

 

This is the Iranians way of protesting against the sanctions being reimposed. The sanctions are hurting them. I've read that they have had to cut back their subsidies to Hezbollah and to
their Syrian militia allies. The Iranians know that for all of Trump's blustering, the US is in no condition to wage an all-out war against them. Iran has 420,000 troops under arms. The US
forces in Iraq never numbered more than 140,000 - and we had a hard time maintaining that number. Its too small a force to take on Iran. The US Army numbers 470,000 men, plus
180,000 marines. The majority of these men are in support, rather than combat, units. We have men in Germany and Korea. Our Army is worn out from years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Iranians know all this and figure they can goad and provoke us safely. They are probably right. Even if it does come to war, it will be drones and cruise missles and air strikes, which
will hurt the Iranians - but it very doubtful they would be enough to cause them to quit. A ground war with Iran is out of the question.

 

Only if you're not objectif in your study of the event. It's was war, not a rehearsed play. It woud be more suspect if the israeli report was more "perfect".

The report showed that the israeli were on the lookout for an egyptian ship of similar size that was sighted in the vicinity. The Liberty was a spy ship, not an easilly identified destroyer or cruiser or other military vessel. It was also in 67, not in present day with all the tech that combat planes have now. They were using mark 10 eyeballs for identification.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ha...an-american-ship-never-mind-hit-her-1.5492908

Israeli pilot to IDF war room: This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?

IDF war room to Israeli pilot: Yes, follow orders.

Israeli pilot to IDF war room: But sir, it’s an American ship - I can see the flag!

IDF war room to Israeli pilot: Never mind; hit it.

Both the CIA document and the quote have already been published in the past.

 

Idk.
Could be anyone. Even ISIS.
Cui bono?

 

Means, motive, and opportunity, combined with a prior history of deceitful and manipulative behavior strongly implicates Israel. Just ask the survivors of the USS Liberty.

 

Most likely it was a joint operation between US, Israeli, and Saudi intelligence. What seems painfully obvious is that Iran had nothing to do with it.

 

Thst was debunked years ago. Try to keep up.

 

Yeah, very interesting, isn't it. Just when oil was getting close to the $50 mark... and an attack.