U.S. Muslims fight back against state bids to ban sharia

Fine. And next thing they'll want is to ban dog ownership because dogs offend them. What are you gonna say then?

 

islam in america is going to be the death of all of us.

 

What?

Are you going to claim that NO Christian husband has EVER mutilated his wife or children?

Don't be absurd.

 

The same thing we tell ANYONE who arrogantly wants the laws to serve their own convenience or preferences, like those who want to be censors, sex haters, dog haters, cat haters, children haters or others. That includes some Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

That word is "NO".

 

This is like saying "areas of America are under Christian Sharia Law" when the Westboro church pickets a neighborhood with "Kill (*)(*)(*)(*)" signs.

A few nutcases posting a sign doesn't make it so.

 

Show me where Sharia Law permits honor killing.

In fact, while you are at it, I would LOVE to see some Quran verses and even Hadiths permitting honor killings. So show me that too.

 

It doesn't trump US law so it doesn't really matter. It is used for civil disputes usually not criminal offenses.

 

Yeah, they have and the husband is sent to prison.... not so in Pakistan where the husband of this woman chopped off her nose, w/the help of a male relative b/c the husband suspected her of infidelity........

That's their culture, their way of life - the men are rarely punished, if at all when they commit a crime against a wife, daughter or any women and why don't you know that?

And the Muslims want to bring this barbarism to our country...

 

I agree with this. People ought to have a right to make a contractual agreement, such as that Sharia Law can be applied in civil court to disputes between those within the contract. I'm talking about the Laws of Sharia, not the punishment.

 

First the US is not Pakistan. Second, sharia law doesn't trump US law. Both of your points are nothing but paranoia.

 

I suggest you get your story straight before you attempt to defend the indefensible.

Your claim of honor killings being against Sharia Law is specious on many levels, not the least of which is the fact that Sharia Law has no penalty for a parent killing their child.
Sharia Gives Authority for Honor Killings

 

Actually I just set the record straight, sharia has quite a few horror bits into its system .

Funny all these so calleed avidence dont cite any experts on islam.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Go46Nhos8"]The Islamic Sharia Law is AGAINST Honor Killing (Pls share & clear the misconception about Islam) - YouTube[/ame]

 

You just underminded your whole argument.
USA ALREADY has a legal system. Banning sharia is just reaferming the laready excisting laws.

Banning murder once more might be nice to placate some, but its not going to change one bit in reality.

Parts of sharia law who are already against thelaw, are already against US law, . The parts that arent against the US law should then also be banned?

You can arguethe same for almost any religion as they all have there rules .

polygamy is illegal, you want to ban mormonism ?

 

SO because some crazy person petitions somewhere the other side of the world the USA has to vote in a law that isnt going to make any difference ?

What makes you "shudder" is also against the law, why ban something again?

 

Complete and utter BS. If any with laws regulating where you can wear veils its actually quite the opposite.

 

what am I going to say if muslims in their religious community ban dog ownership by muslims in that community? I guess I'd say about as much if a Baptist church were to ban dancing or women wearing makeup. What business is that of mine? No muslim is attempting to get dog ownership banned in the community at large, nor could they.

Diversity has always been America's strength.

 

who CARES whether "honor killings" are or are not against sharia law? No one is suggesting that sharia law supplant American criminal law in any way. If someone gets murdered in America, we know how to prosecute that crime and we know which court has jurisdiction. All this talk is just total straw man BS.

 

It's an eight minutes video, but either you're for or against, I suggest you listen to this women.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox7OdSQxDO0"]What is Sharia Law? Why it threatens America. Wafa Sultan explains - YouTube[/ame]

 

why should I listen to some youtube clip when you haven't bothered to listen to, or respond to an darned thing I have written on the subject to date?

 

An utter crap. If not for the outcry of the whole country, dogs in the city of the Hague would have been banned by now, or the law would have been considered, at the very least. Would you call the city of the Hague "Muslims religious community"?

Netherlands: Muslim politician calls for ban on dogs in the Hague

 

I expected as much.

 

On the surface, you're probably correct in that there should not need to be a law which bans something that is already banned. How do you then deal with encroachment of sharia, and is there any danger of it?

 

how have we dealt with the encroachment of mosaic law used by the rabbinical tribunals?

 

Why do we need to deal with it? Do Jews believe the women is inferior to man? Do they practice polygamy? Do they kill people for converting out of Judaism? Do they kill people for burning Torah?

 

all those things you state are illegal under US law.

Rabbinical courts DO however, supplant US law with mosaic law for civil disputes between willing Jewish citizens.... and yet you have no problem with that. Why then would you have a problem if muslim clerics used portions of sharia law that were germane to the settlement of civil disputes between willing muslim citizens?