Unarmed Kid Murdered (Part 4)

I'm just flabbergasted at how many people who are actually racist falsely accuse others of racism for pointing out facts.

Even before Zimmerman's statement is released I guarantee it will not sync up with the current facts. He is going to admit confronting Martin but he will claim he was polite and kept a safe distance and all he was doing was trying to see where he was going so he could tell the police. His fairy tale version will be at such odds with the known facts it will be hard to believe he had the audacity to state them.

We already have the letter from his father stating that at no time did George follow Trayvon and that when the tapes/details came out everyone would see how wrong they were. The tapes come out and one of the first thing it proves is Martin running away and Zimmerman pursuing. I m sure you personally know this so I wasn't trying to educate you, but only some others.

 

Of course there is probable cause to try him.

 

LOL according to his parents. Could you get more biased?

a lie. The witness could not identify which was screaming.

Which is why you listed none. What a shocker.

LOL If he ran then how did he get into a fight with Zimmerman? Can you think a little more and feel a little less?

Unlike your blind racism I don't know if Zimmerman is lying or not.

More lies. I never EVER said Zimmerman was innocent because I admit I don't have enough evidence to make a decision one way or the other.

I don't use blind racism like you do to fill in the gaps in the facts.

 

The police have repeated several times there is no evidence to contradict Zimmerman's claims and that is why he has not been arrested. Currently there are several witnesses that dispute Zimmerman's story and there is not a single witness who said Zimmerman was crying for help. That definitely qualifies for probable cause and they still haven't arrested him. It just proves they didn't investigate anything but simply tried to make it go away.

Even though the State Attorney is reviewing the case it does not stop Sanford PD from picking up Zimmerman now that everyone knows there is a heck of a lot more than probable cause.

 

Unlike the liberals here who use racism to fill in the gaps of missing information we don't know who is right or not and we admit that freely.

Your side uses racism to jump to conclusions.

 

Don't beat around the bush. If you are going to accuse his parents of lying then borrow some balls and say it straight up:

Are you accusing his parents of lying?

yes or no?

 

Of course I don't. They are obviously blinded by the loss of their son.

No parent could be trusted with such an identification.

Way to run away from my other points like I expected.

Thanks for staying predictable.

 

Back up your accusation by showing we have used skin color more than facts. You can't because our position has been based on the facts and racism has not been used at all to reach the conclusion.

Do you know what the proof is that we have not relied on racism to reach the conclusion?

(I think you have absolutely no idea)

 

I wasn't running from your other points and considering how freaking stupid they are I'm shocked you want to highlight them again. When this point is settled I will address them.

When I pointed out his parents identified him you laughed about it which means you do not think they are being honest which means you are accusing them of being dishonest but you don't have the balls to admit it.

If you do not accept their testimony then you are accusing them of being dishonest which proves even when we have evidence against Zimmerman you whine some butt odor around to try and ignore it.

You only have two options:

state their testimony contradicts Zimmerman's

or

they are dishonest and cannot be trusted.

I already predicted some people would be so desperate to defend Zimmermans that they would accuse his parents of being dishonest. The kind of character that runs through your camp is as transparent as it is repulsive.

 

regarding Texmaster's other "points"

Witnesses have specifically identified Trayvon as the one screaming and one of them is Mary Cutcher who was repeatedly ignored by police for trying to point that out.

You asked "if he ran....."

We know for a fact he ran away from Zimmerman because Zimmerman said he ran away from him on the recorded call. Have you considered the crazy approach of learning about the facts before trying to debate the issue out of igloo cold ignorance?

 

"Three witnesses, including two women, have come forward, claiming they witnessed the deadly
shooting.
Mary Cutcher and her roommate said they heard the 17-year-old crying and pleading for his life.
Then, they said they heard the gunshot that killed him. Cutcher and her roommate said they
rushed outside to see Zimmerman standing over Trayvon's body."
http://www.baynews9.com/content/new.../articles/cfn/2012/3/16/travon_martin_shooti/

Now the police are accusing her of lying but they will not provide any evidence. In order for her to be lying she must have said Zimmerman was crying for help and the statement needs to have her signature.

She also stated when she informed them she heard martin crying the detective told her she was wrong and it was Zimmerman she heard. If a butt sponge detective is going to try and force her to changer her testimony then he would definitely write down the false claim she heard Zimmerman.

Bottom line is police cannot provide a signed document from her saying Zimmermans was crying. In fact, there isn't a single witness we know of who said they heard Zimmerman crying.

 

Exactly.

Of course, they are saying it's their son. If it was Zimmerman screaming, he's walking.


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Or, the police have been above board the whole time, and you are falling for a shameful family/lawyer/media race-baiting publicity circus.

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What exactly is shameful about trying to prosecute the person who killed your son?

 

It would be shameful to say that Zimmerman's screams were your son's in order to railroad someone who acted in self-defense.

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There has been no evidence to say who screams they were at all. I don't fault grieving parents who just lost their son to her screams for help and imagine that it is there son's. I can't imagine that would be used in a trial anyway due to emotional bias.

These people just want the guy to be charged with the crime, if he gets convicted or walks at least justice was attempted. There are too many unknowns still to throw the guy to the wolves, but he should be arrested and tried for this.

 

"You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life," said Natalie Jackson, another family attorney. "Then you hear a second shot."

It was the first time that anyone said two shots were fired that night.


But three witnesses who have made public statements have been clear that they heard a single shot, and Trayvon was hit in the chest by a single bullet."


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...l-20120316_1_deadly-shooting-shot-man-reports

Isn't this lawyer feeding frenzy giving anyone pause?


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The police believe that the screams were Zimmerman's according to media reports. They've interviewed witnesses and Zimmerman.

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The police are getting tired of the circus......

""I would hope that they'd make a difference, to try to stop or slow down … the high state of emotions," Police Chief Bill Lee Jr. told the Sentinel in an exclusive interview Friday.

Lee said he is frustrated that Trayvon's family, its lawyers and others have ripped his department for its handling of the case. He is not a racist, he said, and his officers conducted a thorough and fair investigation and did nothing underhanded or untruthful.

"The hysteria, the media circus, it's just crazy," Lee said. "It's the craziest (*)(*)(*)(*) thing I've ever seen, and it's sad. It's sad for the city of Sanford, the police department, because I know in my heart we did a good job."


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...l-20120316_1_deadly-shooting-shot-man-reports

 

That's what lawyers do. They are trying to build public attention in order to get this case taken to trial, this is no different than the whole Casey Anthony thing with Nancy Grace and that went on for a year. She eventually walked but at least she was tried. This guy needs to be tried for this. I personally don't believe that he killed that kid in self defense, I think he initiated the confrontation, started the altercation, Martin was the one calling for help and he shot him. But I may be all wrong, but that is for a jury or a judge to decide.

 

But there have been witnesses that have said that it was Martin screaming, coupled with the reports of leading other witnesses and even Zimmerman himself this needs to be settled in court, that's all I want to see. If he is convicted, justice served, if he walks, justice served, but a trial is needed.

 

Lynch mob, you have a big problem:




"Investigator Chris Serino of Sanford police said Friday the agency has worked closely with prosecutors, and have not arrested Zimmerman because prosecutors have consistently told them they do not have enough evidence to win a manslaughter conviction.

That's because Zimmerman says he was defending himself, something he's allowed to do under Florida law.

The best account of what happened came from Zimmerman, Serino said. Other witnesses who saw or heard parts of what happened corroborate his version of events, the investigator said."


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...-20120316_1_deadly-shooting-shot-man-reports\

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See above. I think you are falling for the media/family/lawyer circus.


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I'm not falling for anything a kid is dead for nothing and the guy who started all of this and was told to stop is looking like he is probably going to get away with it. I can see how there could not be enough evidence since the only two people who know what really happened are Martin and Zimmerman and one can't really tell his side of the story. I just don't buy the self defense rap for one minute, but when I first heard this story it reminded me of the other story in Florida where you are able to kill if you feel your life is threatened.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/jan/03/collier-judge-upholds-stand-your-ground-defense-ca/?partn

And I kind of figured the guy would escape through that law, this is one of the stories where I just want the whole truth no matter the outcome even if everything Zimmerman said was true and the easiest way to get that is perhaps with a trial. But like Zimmerman said 'these (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s always get away'

 

I'm sure they are. This is becoming a national shame for them. But if the Sanford Police had done their job correctly in the first place, not lied to Martin's father, not tampered with witnesses, then this case would not have been taken away from them and transferred to the State's Attorney's Office.

So the hush mob and Chris Serino no longer have any say in this investigation.