Uncomfortable inflation is here, and it’s changing the economy

Of course I don’t like paying more. But I consider the destruction of more sensitive habitats and remaining wildernesses for more comfort to be a steeper price. Costs are not just measured in dollars. It is incredibly irresponsible to not think of the real price being paid for that extra energy use.
It is about choosing the hard right over the easy wrong.

 

we have survived every min wage increase so far, chicken littles always been there though

but you're right, are not raising it for so long has hurt us, as smaller increases are better over time

universal health care would help small businesses and the American people

 

were still outsourcing oil, American oil is just more extensive

 

it's sad that healthcare is tied to jobs, at times like this, we realize that even more so

universal health care would help small business and the American people

 

Oh... you're a tree hugger. I get it. I don't see any point in conversing with fanatics... so have a nice day.

 

Yes. Healthcare is tied to jobs. So is food, shelter, your car, education... its called EARNING A LIVING.

 

Universal healthcare? Oh... another lazy bum too irresponsible to care for him or herself looking for a free ride in life.... where did all these bums come from?

 

and when a pandemic happens, and you get sick in between jobs, you're in trouble

insurance costs hurt small businesses, they could use that cost to give higher wages

 

you mean like all of Congress

 

No... Congress gets its healthcare as part of its compensation... like salary and vacation. That's how I have always earned my healthcare too... as part of my compensation from my employer.

 

I know you love Trump and hate Biden, and you can blame the credit & blame game all you want, but US never stopped importing oil, so the "energy independent" is a myth. We still imported 6 million barrels a day.

Lets look at the facts. Domestic production begun to sky-rocket in 2011, which is six years before Trump took office, and pretty much doubled while Obama was president, while imports were cut to half. That was the trend Trump inherited. Last year there was a 30% reduction in production in US, and not only in US, but globally, but this year production is increasing again. The pipeline has nothing to do with gasoline prices. I do not blame Trump for the reduction last year, and nor do I credit Obama for doubling domestic production and cutting imports to half.

Global price issue is caused by Arabs not producing, which reduces global supply.

 

lol, typical. Someone has a different point of view than your so you shut them down rather than converse. I thought the left was supposed to be the side of cancel culture. I guess both the left and right do it when they hear things they don’t like to hear.

well, have a nice day then.

 

And exactly how were you planning on paying for that 'universal healthcare, and who would administer it? Grow the government even further? Allow the government to control something intrinsic to everybody's lives? That gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling......

How about we expand access to healthcare services by sliding scale clinics to low/no income groups? That way they get healthcare, and the rest of us can get the healthcare we need.

 

I "love" no one but God, my family and a few close friends. Libs LOVE everything from Biden to tree stumps. The US WAS "energy independent" under Trump: https://www.instituteforenergyresea...endent-in-2019-for-the-first-time-since-1957/

 

And gas was cheap when Bush left office. The reason? The economy was destroyed and it brought the price down. A year before he left office gas was over $4.00 par gallon, way more expensive than today.

There are facts, which anyone can look up or deny (as you deny facts about when domestic boom started). Like I said, you can play the credit & blame game all you want and hump Trumps leg all day long, but it won't change anything.

 

Gas over $4 when? I never paid over $4... still don't. You must live in California... I escaped that place about four years ago.

BOTTOM LINE - Gas is a dollar more now than it was under Trump... 'nuff said.

Bush? Bush was President when 9/11 occurred. Children in the womb then are graduating college now. What the heck does Bush have to do with today's gas prices?

 

taxes, it would be much cheaper than the average American pays their employers now

 

If you pay your employer, you have it all wrong. The employer pays YOU. Why would anyone take a job where YOU pay your EMPLOYER? Its beyond crazy.

 

funny, I pay my employer to be part of the group insurance they are a part of, maybe you don't

not everyone gets free healthcare via their employer

 

Everyone CAN. Ok, I guess I understand that underachievers have to put up with such things. I sure don't. I studied hard, went to West Point and ultimately ended up as an exec for a large aerospace company after a career in the Army. Before you start talking about my being elite or having "luck" let me tell you about my roommate Jose. He was raised in a urine smelling apartment in Spanish Harlem with no dad and a seamstress mom. He's a doctor today. Another roommate was the son of a coal miner. He's a retired Colonel today. So you see? Its about working hard and ACHIEVING. Those who fail to do so just whine. Whiners do vex me.

 

So those who are working, will once again pay for those who aren't.

How do you know what people pay their employer?

 

Not that simplistic. The war on coal is reviving the industry for instance by clearing out the less profitable competition. People want energy. People need energy. People will do whatever they have to to have that energy. This is one of the few areas where I think letting the market pace progress is the right solution. Government incentives are fine; arbitrary mandates and deadlines are not. Even beyond that, as far as the environment and conservation, the whole political will has become singularly fixated on fossil fuels when there are plenty other irons that could be placed in the fire like incentivizing transitions to different types of buildings and building materials. It also wouldn't hurt to stop burning plastics tossed in the bins and calling it recycled.

 

I wouldn't know, but if you say do. I specifically said I do not credit Obama for the domestic oil boom, even though it mostly took place during his term (double production & reduce imports to half), and nor do I blame Trump for 2020 slump. I didn't even mention Biden.

If you have to import 8.5 million barrels a day, then you are obviously still dependent on imports.

But its all good. Last 12 years imports are down and domestic production is up. You have to be total partisan to try to pin it all on one president who took office when lions share of the improvements had already taken place, but heck, whatever gets you thought the night.

 

I think government mandates protecting wildernesses and sensitive habitats are the right thing to do. In the long run it also protects us.
I’m fine with the government incentivizing over mandating as well, except where it come with protecting areas mentioned above.