Unmarked Feds in Portland Kidnapping Protesters

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Nobody was kidnapped. The correct verb is arrested for vandalizing federal government assets. The federal police force was Homeland Security, the appropriate agency to protect domestic federal assets. If the mayor of Portland doesn't like, he can decide to control Antifa so he wouldn't have to entertain federal officers.
     
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    It's great, isn't it? The one thing that these people have used to justify their guns was to protect the American people from unconstitional power of the federal govt; but here we have them grabbing people off the street - kidnapping - without any due process, and where are the 2A people? AWOL, of course, in case they get hurt. *******.
     
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    And you'll believe the left wing garbage Mayor? The Feds have the right to defend federal property.
     
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    How do you know there are no charges?
     
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    You don't exercise due process before taking people into custody.
     
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    Good for them, keep it up feds. Crack open a few heads while you are at it, ooopps, I will get a demerit for that.
     
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    Fake News.

    Federal Officers Always Operate in America’s Cities, So Just Calm Down.
     
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    I think it says POLICE.

    Do try to keep up with the lingo.

    Police = Unmarked.
     
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    perhaps it does in your fantasyland, but not here in the land of rational thought.
     
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    It's easy.

    i) Police = Unmarked
    therefore
    ii) Police marked as "Police" are Unmarked

    If you are having difficulty with ii) just work on i)
     
  11. Horhey

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    Law enforcement should go after people damaging property, not snatching random people off the street. This is not complicated.
     
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    How do you know that those so called "random people" did NOT damage property?
     
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    None of them have been charged that I know of. You can't prove a negative. Just admit that you want the state to crush the protesters because you don't agree with them politically.
     
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    I heard that too, and maybe that true for some of them, but NPR reports that "Federal officers have charged at least 13 people with
    crimes related to the protests so far, while others have been arrested and released." https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/8922...arked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland


    Sure you can. If the government came out and stated that people were NOT charged, would that not be proving a negative?

    I can say something equally as baseless: just admit that you want the pathetic thugs to crush America as much
    as they can because you don't agree with American system. Anyway, which protesters are you talking about?
     
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    You really should read that article.
     
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    I did. Where the hell do you think I got the quote from? Again, "Federal officers have charged at least 13 people with
    crimes related to the protests so far, while others have been arrested and released."
     
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    The more people protests against these law enforcement invasions, the more Trump will insist on a crack-down against these protests.

    Then Trump has what he wants; the anarchy that will disrupt the 2020 election (in cities where he otherwise might be outvoted, democrat-wise.)
     
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    Philadelphia has said that if these Feds go against the law in Philadelphia, they themselves will face that law.

    Larry Krasner District Autorney of Philadelphia on Democracy Now,today, seems to find the legality of it somewhat iffy though there are times when they do come in due to some specific reason. Either he or someone else said it was really the first time not in a civil war that they had come in like this without the agreement of the State. Krasner was very careful in what he said and said, though of course he did not have all the details, but it did look as if some of the actions taken by these Feds in Portland were illegal. He also pointed out that they seemed to be acting as Agent Provocateurs by interfering in peaceful protests and shooting people who were no danger with rubber bullets and taking people off the streets and away in unmarked vans. He says this behaviour by the feds gets the people angry and they start acting in a more violent way which the Feds then use as an excuse for even more violence against them. Krasner says Philadelphia has no problems with violence. There are some protests going on but things are peaceful and there certainly is no need for any outside intervention. However he also says we should be careful not to over state this. In Chicago they have put in 150 Feds. This would amount to 1% of the police force. He says therefore he believes it is not for any interest in creating civil war, which he believes Trump does not even have the intelligence/imagination to desire but simply to take things away from his dismal behaviour re Covid19.

    Just imagine how the US would respond if they saw another country using unmarked vans to remove people for no known reason on the street and deliberately shooting rubber bullets at people's heads when they are no danger as well as shooting at medics trying to help the people. Even if the guy from Philadelphia is right and this is just Trump trying to please his fans when he does not have the ability to do much having sent so few in, they are acting illegally and they are harming people, some probably with life changing injuries and most of all allowing this gives them the right of prescidence to come back in again possibly in far greater force.
     
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    Why do you think arrests are random? It is certainly illogical that they would do that.
     
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    This is EXACTLY how the American trained and sponsored Death Squads in
    Chile, Argentina, San Salvador, ETC, began their filthy work. Pulling people
    off the streets, then sooner or latter some of those people began to DISSAPEAR.

    T
    he Brain Dead and Mind Washed here, have no idea of the Fascist Hell
    that they will unleash upon themselves, by speaking for and making making case
    .................................................................................. & apology for to this sort of S:icon_shithappens:t

    The Police State moves forward !
    The Federal Coup to Overthrow the States
    and Nix the 10th Amendment Is Underway

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/55383.htm


    Was this guy attacking or vandalizing Federal Property as some Idiots allege ? -
    Americans supposedly have the RIGHT to Protest - Federal Police State GOONS
    ...... took that RIGHT away from this man - and they will soon be outside YOUR door
    .................................................................................................................................................................. to take YOURS




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    Do what?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    How much time do you have on your hands?
     
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    Logic has nothing whatsoever to do with it - It is simply the
    exercise of lawless, UnConstitutional - Bully Ass Power
    ----------------------------------------
    The Federal Coup to Overthrow the States
    and Nix the 10th Amendment Is Underway

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/55383.htm
    --------------------------------------


    Threaten & Beat the Hell out of people, who Lawfully protest the brutality
    of Militarized Police Forces who and act in corrupt & lawless abeyance
    ..................................................................................... to the US Constitution with Impunity.

    Yikes ! - :truce:
    How can I ever recover from such a Sharp & Pointed
    .................................................................................................. Rebuttal ? :icon_picknose:
     
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    Of course they were found alive and unharmed, they were temporarily legally detained and then released? What else did anyone expect?
     
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    What is chilling is where this could go if the mobs are allowed to destroy the city. Why do you want to see the city destroyed, and innocent people's property and livelihoods destroyed? Why do you hate law and order so much? Do you enjoy walking down a street seeing everything covered in graffiti and windows smashed? Cars burnt out? People unable to get to where they need to go? Lives disrupted?
     
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