Unsigned Trump order told Pentagon to seize voting machines

WTF are you talking about? H Clinton conceded, Obama worked with the incoming administration for a smooth transition and handover of power. Nobody tried to prevent him for being sworn in as president. Nobody tried to overturn the 2016 election.
You just made that up.

 

Yes. So it’s good there is a House committee looking into these things.

 

He called for "peaceful protests". With that video... you're conspiracy theories are debunked. We can have you fitted for a tin foil hat if you would like to continue on your line of make believe. What size?

 

Did you even watch the video I just shared? "Peacefully protest"... say it with us... "Peacefully protest". Your desire to take people out of context is noted. If you are not going to be intellectually honest, then no one can take you seriously.

 

You take one sentence and seriously think that was enough to reverse the months he spent working his supporters into a frenzy with his lies about a stolen election?
That’s laughable.

 

Trump, the great pacifist...

While his MAGA's were storming the Capitol to hang Mike Pence, who had a violent confrontation with the police, he was watching his work on TV.

A guy who likes violence wouldn't have acted otherwise.

It took two hours - and dozens of calls from his staff - for him to ask the crowd to go home.

And this psychopath was POTUS.

Anyway, your position smacks of hypocrisy.

If a Democrat had the same thing as Trump, the MAGA would have started a civil war....

 

As you have been told and have ignored is that staff organization prepare options in terms of strategy and supporting documents. The various options are presented at strategy meetings and executive leaders pick from these options. It may be that the draft executive order was presented to Trump and he said that he did not concur. So [expletive] what if that scenario happened?

Your comment about Biden and the 500K makes this very point and demonstrates you have a double standard -- one standard for Trump and one for Biden. Cause for you it only counts when Biden signs something. For Trump, it is sufficient to just assert he saw something that was never signed.

In 1934, the US Army developed a war plan to invade Canada entitled “Joint Army and Navy Basic War Plan – Red,” Now from that fact would you assert that President Roosevelt intended or considered invading Canada?

 

Didn't you leave a few things like without Trump
You wouldn't have Democrats and their childish ilk
Murdering dozens of Americans in 578 riots
Injuring thousands of law enforcement in 578 riots
Destroying billions in American businesses in 578 riots
Taking over the city of Seattle
Attacking the SCOTUS to stop the Kavanaugh confirmation
Attacking the WH to the point the President had to be moved to a bunker
Blocking traffic on interstates
Attacking conservatives in restaurants
Attacking conservatives at rallies
Impeachments started on the day of inauguration
Marching in Vagina costumes
Destroying statues that hurts their feelings
Riots in DC during the inauguration
3 years of fake Russians conspiring with Trump to overturn an election
Democrats bailing out rioters to continue their destruction
Democrat supporter gunning down Republicans on a baseball field
Magic whistle blowers that never materialized

Coupled with their debunked fake claims like
Kavanaugh is an alcoholic high school serial rapist
The Covington Catholic kids are all white supremist
The first lady was a professional whore
Trump was a planted Russian operative
All Trump loans are signed off by Russian Oligarchs
The Capital cop was murdered with a fire extinguisher
Illegal Aliens only get water from toilets while incarcerated
Rittenhouse was a murdering white supremist vigilante
It was an armed insurrection
All Trump computers are linked to Russian banks
The Emoluments Clause hoax
Trump was thinking about launching a nuclear strike on China
Schiff had conclusive evidence of Trump conspiring with the Russians


Yes, thanks for reminding us of all the things that would have never happened if Trump wasn't elected so Democrats would have their childish meltdowns for over 4 years.
You're welcome

 

Still making it up as you go? Your word twisting isn't helping. You were wrong, you're still wrong, and no, you don't have a clue how the draft was created, who created it, and if Trump even read it.

 

War plan red was made as a hypoethical scenario in case US and Britain went to war. Because only Congress can declare war, these hypothetical scenarios do not require consent of the President.

So now, what hypothetical scenario does seizing elections address?

And the Biden example only illustrates thr hypocrisy of the right. You all were up in arms that 500k was being discussed during negotiations, even when all sorts of numbers get thrown around. Did the left make the same excuses like in this thread? Oh he wasn't aware or present during the meetings. Nope.

 

Those were your words. You are saying they make drafts of EOs without his permission or knowledge.

Funny how a year ago went Pelosi talked to the secretary of defense about nuclear weapons, the right was up in arms about treason because it was done without Trumps knowledge. Today, yyou don't need the president knowledge if you are drafting a potentially unconstitutional executive order.

Keep spinning to fit the narrative.

 

Show us proof it was on his desk?

 

The missed point was that staff draw up plans for all sorts of options. That is the business of a staff organization. Not to get too far afield but your comment about Congress declaring war ignores the fact that we have had wars without Congress declaring war.

The 500k comment is whataboutism.

 

WTF are you talking about? Clinton didn't even write a concession speech. And immediately after the 2016 election she had Jill Stein ask for a recount in several states (a person who had zero chance of winning), did behind the scenes work to get electors to be faithless, and got her team to spread false lies to courts about Russian collusion. If I remember correctly, Biden took over the White House on the day he was supposed to. If that isn't Trump conceding then I don't know what is.

 

She conceded the next day. Trump never has.
The only faithless electors deserted her, not trump. And no, she did not work behind the scenes to get faithless electors. That’s a RWNJ lie.

 

So this is how desperate your thinking has become
You think that the speaker of the house, going behind the presidents back, to conspire with the presidents top military advisor, to usurp the presidents power by conspiring to keep the nuclear football away from the president
is the same as
A staffer writing a draft for an EO

Any other nonsense you want to add to that?

 

Presidents have us military forces without congressional approval, but not under declaration of a war. War plan red was a specific war plan, so did not need consent of the President.

500k shows the hypocrisy of the right, who were red hot when the 500k settlement was being floated, and not even a draft of that settlement was shown.

The presidential staff draws up plans according to the presidents wishes or what is being discussed and seriously considered internally.

 

Keep spinning. Show me a draft of Pelosi conspiring. Bet you can't even do that. Or even internal communications documenting some strategy to usurp control.

 

is the right regretting their vote for Trump now and trying to blame him on the dems?

 

After abandoning her own supporters who stood in the arena for hours while she had her emotional breakdown and had to be drugged to get her back to her senses. Yeah, she rocked it. lol

She didn't have any faithless electors
Sorry

You mean like getting the debate questions up front and sabotaging Bernies campaign with the DHC to the point that the DNCs leader (Debbie W Schultz) had to come up on stage the very first night of their national convention and resign. Yeah, we all remember all that BS. lol

 

Is the left forgetting they voted him into office?

 

we did? is that the new fake news making the rounds?

 

Look whos talking about spinning. lol
Now you need a draft of Pelosi conspiring? What rock have you been living under?
You didn't know she admitted it?
You didn't know Gen Milley testified about it?
What the hell are you doing on a political board?

Meaning you obviously haven't a clue what you're talking about
Pelosi Trying To Prevent Trump From Accessing Nuclear Codes
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/house-speaker-joint-chiefs-milley/index.html

Or General Milley's testimony of Pelosi contacting him to stop Trumps access to nuclear codes
Milley told Pelosi he's not qualified to determine Trump's 'mental health
https://www.businessinsider.com/milley-told-pelosi-not-qualified-to-determine-trumps-mental-health-2021-9

 

She conceded. I don’t know what you’re talking about with a breakdown but she did concede. Trump has never conceded.

You’re wrong - she lost 5 electors that were pledged to her. Five faithless electors.

The other things you mention were not efforts to overturn the result of the election. Trump tried to do that. Clinton didn’t.

 

Reference your last sentence? What is the basis for your claim? Do you have White House staff experience?

But let's go you your assertion. The President says give me some options to address a stolen election. The draft executive order is drawn up as an option. It is not an option taken. So what is your issue. You are showing the same approach that you call hypocrisy when the other team does the same thing. Does that make you hypocritical?