US Attorney Durham objects to IG findings on Russia probe origins in stunning statement

Nah... your GF happy button...

 

It's a little plastic Reset button that Obama, Clinton and the Russian trolls who voted for them gave to their masters in the Kremlin symbolizing their Pro-Putin Platform.

 

Just listened to Barr's interview with Pete Williams (DoJ reporter from NBC). Barr seems to continue to believe that he's the President's lawyer. In short, however, he believes that the IG did not have the scope of authority or the methodology necessary to draw a conclusion about the justification of the FBI to launch an investigation into the possibility of conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. One major reason for this was the IG's jurisdiction and the fact that he was largely limited to sources within the FBI itself. The Durham investigation, according to Barr, will be much broader and go beyond the FBI itself, regarding the original causes for the investigation.
One aspect all sides seem to be missing is the impact of 9/11 on intelligence and law enforcement in the United States. In the aftermath of that attack, one of the principal findings of the "How Could This Have Happened" studies, was the negative effect of what private industry referred to a decade earlier as "stove-pipe thinking," and bureaucratic politics. The theory of stove-pipe (or smokestack) thinking was that as bureaucratic organizations grow in numbers and importance, they tend to adopt self-protective organizational thought processes. That "self-protection" is based largely on inter-organizational competition for funding resources, which in turn results in the protection of agency information and internal secrecy - i.e. a reluctance of different agencies to work together for a common purpose. [Note: This "bureaucratic politics" model has, with the advent of the IT world, been regulated to a secondary status by many in favor of the individual vs. organizational world and civil liberties, which tends to lump ALL organizations together versus the individual right to privacy. That's a separate problem.]
The stove-pipe thinking acknowledgement, following 9/11, led to a reorganization of our intelligence services, efforts to working together more closely, and a general shift in emphasis, in law enforcement, from prosecution of crimes after the fact to "preventive counter-intelligence" before the fact. How that occurred, is another story unto itself, but the result was in the movement of agency methodologies away from prosecuting the criminal toward preventing the crime (and, yes, that does have a massive impact on civil liberties as well).
The practical effect was increased funding and resources for counter-intelligence domestic and foreign and the blurring of the prior line of demarkation between foreign and domestic jurisdictions.
That change led the FBI investigation into the possibility of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians predicated on a far lower threshold of a counter-intelligence investigation, rather than the higher threshold of a criminal investigation. That investigation also relied on classified information and the protection of the sources of that information far below the transparency required by law for criminal prosecutions. That difference has plagued all subsequent investigation into both the question of conspiracy and obstruction.

 

Actually...I knew that. And, it was prior to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

 

US Attorney Durham objects to IG findings on Russia probe origins in stunning statement
Just one more of many examples of Trump's ongoing, successful effort to politicize the Dept of Justice, a historically politically neutral institution. This is another of Trump's continuing plan to weaken or disable many of the core departments or institutions of the American government & replace them with his brand of authoritarian rule. For over two years I wondered why Trump supporters didn't turn on Trump & defend the Constitution, but now I see that neither Trump or his supporters care about the Constitution, or whether it works or not.

 

Nope! I don't think that's the case. Some months ago either Barr or Durham said their inquiry has become a CRIMINAL investigation. I can understand it takes that long to get the evidence to indict. It's a very complicated matter with a lot of players, especially on a global scale as in this coup.

 

AG Barr states that the FBI may have acted in "bad faith" when it spied on Trump campaign:

Little wonder anyone would think that given the fact that the Trump-Russia collusion narrative was completely bogus and was fanned by the completely partisan and irresponsible LW Fake News media.

Of course, James Clapper has already admitted that the Trump campaign was spied on.

Finally, Barr speaks to the importance of the investigations into the spying into the Trump campaign that was later found to be devoid of predicate:

 

Actually, the current investigations into the illegal and unpredicated spying on the Trump campaign are in response to the politicization of the FBI by President Obama and his administration.

Instead of standing for the Constitution, the rule of law and the integrity of our democratic system and processes, the Left has treated us to the risible Orwellian propaganda we see in the post quoted above.

If there's anything amusing about the endless stream of bullshit emanating from the Left these days, whether it be in regards to the Democrats' attempt to steal what they couldn't earn at the ballot box in 2016 or the efforts to defend the scofflaws in the Obama-Clinton crime family and its Derp State "insurance" agents, it's how these Alinskyites wrap themselves and their pretenses in the mantle of the Constitution they are wiping their asses with.

Clearly, the only thing "progressives" care about is power, and just as clearly they will say and do anything to obtain and maintain their grip on power. They don't give a flying **** about a document that was written with people like them in mind and has served as a constant source of frustration to their will to power.

 

This changed with the firing of Comey, which brought on Special Counsel Mueller and the possibility of not only conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians, but also that of obstruction of justice by the President himself.

 

We'll see. But I think you've drunk the Trump Kool-Aid. Sadly.

 

Absolutely nothing you say in your post above has any truth whatsoever. I'm a liberal Democrat, & although I don't agree with every piece & particle of the Constitution, I do support & honor it, knowing that it can be changed to benefit our citizens over time. What Trump & his minions offer is far, far inferior. I will continue supporting the Constitution, in complete opposition to your post above.

 

Everything I said in my post is true and your futile attempt to discredit the effort to hold the people who politicized the FBI and DOJ under the Obama Administration, which includes Obama himself (yes, James Clapper has already implicated him), responsible for subverting the Constitution, rule of law and our democratic system and processes only reveals your own disregard for our Constitution, rule of law and democratic system and processes.

 

It's not merely a 'possibility' they acted in bad faith. They DID act in bad faith. If one believes otherwise, try swearing an oath to a court and then openly lying about it. See where that gets you. It got James Comey a cushion seat at MSNBC.

 

What is you think Comey lied about?

 

According to Barr, it will be late Spring or early Summer 2020.

 

He's among those who signed the FISA warrants, claiming that US Person Carter Page was a foreign spy looking to influence the 2016 elections in a conspiracy with the Russian campaign, based on a nonexistent 19.5% of Rosneft that went to Qatar and went to China.

 

Everything you say in your post could be applied to you & all other Trump supporters now. Instead of addressing the illegal & dangerous actions by this President & helping to replace him (with another Republican), you are actively endorsing him doing the exact same thing you accuse Obama of doing wrong. Such hypocrisy!

 

Page had been a "person of interest" for a number of years by the FBI...before he joined the Trump campaign. He served on the staff of the Merrill Lynch Moscow office and was an attempted recruit to Russian intelligence. He was the subject of an earlier FISA warrant and bragged about serving as a consultant to the Russian government. The second FISA warrant was issued after he'd left the Trump campaign, in September 2016. On Rosneft, you may be referring to a Russian promise to Page for the 19.5% holding...but you'd have to supply more detail.
I believe Comey signed the original second FISA warrant application. There were two or three "extensions," which would have gone into 2017, the last being g after the Comey firing. I believe Rosenstein signed the last one.

 

Someone bought the dem clown show narrative hook line and sinker.

 

You totally made that up. Hilarious.

 

Yes, I'm referencing to that conspiracy theory, since unproven. And Carter Page far from a person of interest, was actually helping them in their investigation.

 

Read the IG report.

 

That's possible. Apparently, he worked occasionally for U.S. intelligence agencies, and they may have been considering the possibility that he was a double agent. At any rate, thus far, he hasn't been indicted.

 

The projection, phony pretenses and hypocrisy are all yours.

Unlike yourself I support the investigations into the Obama Administration's politicization of the FBI and DOJ and their subversion of the Constitution, rule of law and our democratic processes and institutions. Furthermore, I support the punishment of anyone and everyone found guilty of subverting the Constitution, rule of law and our democratic processes and institutions to the fullest extent of the law.

Furthermore, unlike the hypocritical "progressives" who no longer oppose the laws and procedures that enabled the Obama-Clinton crime family and its "insurance" agents in the federal government to violate the Constitutional rights of American citizens for their own personal and political benefit, my opposition has remained consistent from day one. When we first formed the Safe and Free Coalition in our community I knew that one day some power-hungry piece of trash like Barack Obama, in concert with other power-hungry trash in the federal bureaucracy, would come along and abuse those powers for their own purposes and gain, and Obama & Co. have confirmed my worst suspicions.

 

Good analysis. Let me add to it.

...then, when someone promises to come in and clean house, the entire bureaucracy unites into self-defense mode.