Right, so some 18 year old kid makes a mistake and that's an excuse to riot and murder? What happened to the religion of peace?
Nonsense. You wouldnt get this reaction from christians following a burning of a bible. I suspect this reaction isnt even from the people and is instead orchestrated by those who wish to cause as much discord and strife as they possibly can.
I posted a whole load of links, showing that Muslims burn Bibles on a regular basis. It's not surprising that the Muslim apologists refuse to even acknowledge that. It's also interesting that there have NOT been Christians screaming & yelling, rioting and beheading people, as a result of those Bibles being burned. Some people are civilized, others are savages.
More likely that muslims have the convictions of their faith and christians do not. The worst possible turn of events was that the ' christian ' West turned its invented ' war on terror ' into a culture war. Islam is stronger by far. Anybody that don't get cosmopolitan real quick is gonna lose.
Riiiiiight, so the whole world should have to walk on eggshells around Muslims because they are so (*)(*)(*)(*) sensitive. Get real. They need to break out of the 6th century. LOL! You must think it is grand that their convictions are to riot, murder and burn things at the drop of a hat, or in this case some idiot private burning Korans that were defaced by other Muslims. That, by the way, is also against their convictions... yet you hear nothing about it.
I'm not defending it, I'm saying it's reality. All religion is shear madness to me, the whole lot of them. This 18 year old kid was either suitable for a war zone or not. The US military has been giving instruction and training in islam, was he not listening? It all comes back to the fact that if your troops weren't there, this wouldn't happen. Abu Graib wouldn't have happened, t he torture, rape, murder by US troops and contractors wouldn't have happened.
No, but it was US christians who burned a koran wasn't it. Religion peace the christians? There's nutters in all religions, do you seriously apply the same logic and expectation to some people living in the worst country in the world, where people walk around with AK47s and grenade launchers as you do to the West? That's insanity! They don't have proper eduction FFS! They're indoctorianted with this stuff, they don't have internet access, or libraries. And you expect them to think like us? (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiots!
Okay... fill me in.... was there any non-BS-Video of Korans being purposefully burned by US troops? If not... then freakin thread closed for those of us who deal in facts and not BS. If so, link please to the burning of the Koran by US troops: (insert here)
Really? Invading Iraq, for example, was the most monumentally ignorant action in modern history. It takes a real genius to be that ignorant-and stupid.
Indeed Leffe, they should have been more careful in their actions. That does not excuse their reaction to the situation AKA the rioting and people dying. and if you want to play the "if" game, if they didn't kill three thousand people on 9/11 we wouldn't have went there at all!
Do you mean the Suadi's or the Afgans? I'm confused now. I'm not excusing anyone of anything (US or Afgan). But US posters here are attempting to say that the thought process of an Afgani; poorly educated, indoctorinated at birth, with no access to the web or libraries, should be the same as an American, brought through an education system, with pretty much all documented knowledge a click of a button away. This is arrogance and stupidily. Of course people in the 3rd world act and think differently to us, thinking other is just plain stupidity.
Islam is like any other religion. A religion. There is no terms of strength here. If we are the Christian west then someone better get over here and advise our liberals and atheists of such....because they swear up and down that we're not a Christian nation. I tend to believe the liberals over the religious crazy nuts trying to attack us whenever we look away from them. The War on Terror was not invented - 9/11 happened and you cannot dismiss this. The Middle East struck out and the US struck back, simple cause and effect there. Islam needs to get over itself and be a global team player.
9/11 didn't happen out of a vaccuum-or do you think that the attack occurred because those lunatics had nothing better to do? Contrary to your assertion it is the West which needs to 'get over' itself and start treating the Middle East with respect, and not as a free-for-all resource. If you act like a bully don't act outraged and surprised when the little guy eventually gets pissed-off and gives you a bloody nose.
Only Islam dictates the form of government and the civil laws that are to be enforced. Christianity is "my kingdom is not of this world", "render unto ceasar, that which is ceasars" and "obey all authorities, instituited among men".
You mean we should have allowed Saddam to annex Kuwait. And we pay cash for all the oil and none of it is free.
Because most were until civilized. The problem is, in the modern world some folk take longer than others to put on the mantle of civilization and behave in such a way.
It's all about context. If you're burning books that are the garbage that comes with insurgents, that's quite different from burning books out of something like censorship. The point is, if someone wants to attack us over burning Qurans, they probably are either looking for a reason to attack us or they're just too insane to reason with in the first place.
Burning books in this case qurans, has and would upset and inflame the locals of afghan. Either the troops involved are morons or intentionally done this. Such crass insenative treatment to another peoples religious beliefs in their own country is highly stupid and should be attacked. Of course if this was done in the usa. (like the pastor tried last year) This would be a different debate.
We'll have to differ on the bolded part. I'm not saying what they did was smart, but then again, we're attempting something stupid in the first place. The only way to successfully nation build a place like Afghanistan requires some serious domination of the locals. That's what the Taliban had to do. We're trying to pretend that these are people who can function in a democratic government. Obviously, a people crazy enough to kill over a book burning aren't capable of that. So, due to political correctness, we keep up the charade while wasting billions.
Raymondo put this point much better than i can plagerise. "America has never learned to prove their own system is 'superior' they always rely on force" So how expect anyone else to believe in it? (i.e nation build) Also (attack) was the wrong word. No one deserved to die over that action. But religious beliefs are blind the world over.
