US Homeland Security buys 750 million hollow point bullets

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  1. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

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    Who are US 'homeland Security' planning to use them on?


    http://presstv.com/detail/235832.html




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    http://theintelhub.com/2012/04/05/t...low-point-ammunition-in-the-last-three-years/
     
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    Press Tv and the Intel hub.... maybe you should be patient and see if there's anything genuine about the story from more reliable sources?
     
  3. AJ98

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    I don't understand what the issue here is. The DHS is purchasing ammunition. So what? The DHS pretty much encompasses every law enforcement agency. The ammunition is likely being divided amongst the various federal and state agencies that enforce the law. Is it any different than you're local police department purchasing new handguns?
     
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    Interesting. One of the Modern Marvels episodes entitled "Bullets" several years ago claimed that NATO or some other "worldly" organization disallowed the use of exploding or hollow point rounds. Evidently, the USA citizens are not entitled to such a luxury when riots ensue due to the irresponsible spending of government officials.
     
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    And the NY Times would run an article about this?
     
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    They use hollow point ammunition that is less likely to pass through a individual and strike a innocent bystander. It is more damaging for the individual that gets shot.
     
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    Its motto since 1851 has been "All the News That's Fit to Print". Its won over 100 Pulitzer prizes and it has clearly demonstrated its independance of government by the Pentagon Papers. The same cannot be said for Press TV.

    However NY Times is only one of many media with a pretty reliable reputation and taken as a whole there is every reason to believe that if there was anything noteworthy in this story it would have been taken up by at least one of them.

    People who rely on propaganda outfits like Press TV merely choose to believe what fits and feeds their prejudices, they are not interested in the true story of what is happening in the world.
     
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    NY Times is propaganda.
     
  9. AJ98

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    Media typically has one agenda: to make money. The truth comes second.
     
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    Show it.
     
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    If media like the NY Times wants to keep in business then they have to protect their credibility as its their biggest asset, so truth cannot come in second place.
     
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    Well now, here we have someone staying on topic and issuing an intelligent response to the original post. There is hope.

    People who are afraid of guns often don't understand them enough to debate them as the tools they are. Hollow point rounds are designed to do maximum damage or kill the intended target. Why else would you be shooting them? If your intention to use deadly force, why would you use a tool that would have a less likely result and possibly harm others?
     
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    I'm not arguing that truth isn't a high priority. But they are also a business that has to turn a profit. And they also have to present the news in a fashion that will attract readers. Most people who pick up a newspaper don't read anything in it past the headlines.
     
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    Your data for this contemptuous put-down ?
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no genuine MSM left in America. Our politics are corrupt as any, yet where is the modern Watergate scandal? The most they will report on is affairs. The only real scandal I have seen reported in modern times, something a politician could be charged for, was the Pelosi/Israeli spy thing. And that was buried and disappeared. As an American citizen, I apologize to the person who came forward to notify the public, as Pelosi still has her office, while their career and livelihood was probably destroyed.
     
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    So we use a minimal expansion full-metal-jacket bullet in war, but it is acceptable for the government to use hollow-points, potentially against its own citizens?

    Something seems wrong with that. . .
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I could see if it was .223 rounds. But the fact it is .40 cal is just a huge waste of tax payer funds. Mind you, I'm sure law enforcement does need a lot for target practice. But for those upset, you don't put down riots or revolutions with handguns.
     
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    750 million of them??????
    Homeland security????

    who are the targets then?
     
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    yes and every American should be asking themselves what is going on that they dont know about

    why 750 million HP bullets not for us Muslims but for you own people!!

    they seem to be getting ready for some kind of confrontation with you and they are not intending taking prisoners by the look of it
     
  20. AJ98

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    I used to work for a newspaper in my area. But I guess if I'm not showing you graphs and pie charts then I must be full of sh!t. Oh well, I guess thats just your problem.
     
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    The American public are stock piling weapons and ammo. There is probably 300 million firearms. Billions of ammunition in the public's hands. So much so, that it is becoming extremely hard for gun suppliers to keep common ammunition, which .40 is, on the shelf. The government could have purchased so much to make sure manufacturers are supplying law enforcement 1st and foremost. .40 is not a round used to put down revolt. Governments use rifle rounds and shotgun shells for that work.
     
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    Perhaps, but a lot of law-enforcement agencies have been buying Beretta CX4 carbines, which do come in a .40 cal. That would be a decent weapon to put down a riot.
     
  23. AJ98

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    Yeah, the government is stockpiling up all this ammunition so it can go on a shooting rampage against its own citizens. Way to go on connecting the dots there you guys.
     
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    I'm somebody that everyone calls "conspiracy theorist" on here, and I honestly believe this more of the DHS trying to monopolize further purchase of said caliber. In a shooting war with the American public, the majority of law enforcement would bow out or join the public. Mind you, if it was any sort of legitimate movement, not an excuse to steal TVs.
     
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    That's backwards logic. Corruption breeds corruption so it would surface at some point if it were there. In any case there is plenty of reputable non US media to take over where there is any failing.
     

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