US Reverses Stance on UN Arms Treaty

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  1. Diesel Power

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    US Reverses Stance on UN Arms Treaty

    Please share this with EVERYONE you know. This is how HITLER started out, to gain control of the people.
    Scary !!! Every day it gets scarier and scarier !!!

    The Full Oct. 14, 2012 Article can be read Here: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015
    U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.

    The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.
    On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States . The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations.

    By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.
    The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws.

    Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.
    This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.

    Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed.

    We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).
     
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    Have any of you alarmists actually read the proposed resolution?

    It is intended to cub INTERNATIONAL arms sales.

    Unless you are buying lots of guns from overseas or selling lots of guns to foreigners, this treaty won't affect you.
     
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    Not true! there is much more to it than that...
     
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    The anti-Obama crowd is in full "ready, fire, aim" mode.

    This is like the people who claimed Obama's first executive order sealed all of his personal records -- when in fact the order deals only with official presidential records, and represented an *increase* in transparency, since it repealed a more-restrictive Bush-era order and replaced it with a less-restrictive one.

    I don't know if such people are knowingly lying or are just stupid. Either way, they're not to be taken seriously.
     
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    No there isn't. The treaty censures companies and nations involved in the international arms trade who sell to foreign civilians.

    It will have zero effect on domestic gun sales or ownership except for cutting into gun company profits.
     
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    "If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan"

    "In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year. And we’ll do it by investing in disease prevention, not just disease management; by investing in a paperless health care system to reduce administrative costs; and by covering every single American and making sure that they can take their health care with them if they lose their job. … And we won’t do all this twenty years from now, or ten years from now. We’ll do it by the end of my first term as president of the United States."

    The Boy King loves abusing his sheep.
     
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    The proposed UN Resolution's text is online for anyone to read, unlike the Obamacare legislation.

    BTW, was your post supposed to be somekind of "zing!"? Utter failure. I'm opposed to Obamacare.
     
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    You Obama supporters better not need national unity or solidarity. I hope you guys fail.
     
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    you had better vist the NRA website and read about the dangers of this "new' deal...this administrations agenda is to disarm our military futher and our people completley.
     
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    Yup. The NRA. No way that they are biased or anything.
     
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    how about this!



    Second Amendment: Within hours of re-election, the administration fast-tracked a treaty in the United Nations that transcends borders and tramples our constitutional right to keep and bear arms. It was no coincidence.

    Less than 24 hours after President Obama's re-election, the U.S. Mission to the United Nations helped move the U.N.'s Arms Control Treaty a step closer to enactment. America joined 157 other nations in voting Wednesday to finalize the treaty in March. None was opposed and there were 18 abstentions.

    U.N. delegates and gun-control activists had complained that talks collapsed in July largely because Obama feared attacks from Republican rival Mitt Romney if his administration was seen as openly supporting the pact. But once the election was over, the Obama administration had more flexibility to pull the trigger on supporting the pact.

    The Obama administration, which reversed long-standing U.S. opposition to the treaty in 2009, says the treaty does not threaten our Second Amendment rights and applies only to international arms trade. But its record of opposition to private gun ownership and its deference to international bodies and their authority give us pause.

    So does a paper by the U.N.'s Coordinating Action on Small Arms. It notes that arms have been "misused by lawful owners" and demands that the "arms trade therefore be regulated in ways that would ... minimize the misuse of legally owned weapons."

    Is an American defending his home against intruders just such a "misuse"?

    Even if the treaty applied only to transfers of small arms between nations, would that mean restrictions on our ability to aid allies such as Israel and Taiwan? Would we be forbidden from supporting resistance movements around the world that rise up against the very dictators who support this treaty?

    The treaty establishes a bizarre moral equivalence between countries that trade arms to defend freedom and those that do so to suppress and extinguish it.

    Interestingly, just as the world's worst human rights violators sat on and often chaired the U.N. Human Rights Council, Iran, arms supplier extraordinaire to America's enemies, was elected to a top position at the U.N. Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty that was held in New York in early July.

    The U.S. is one of the few countries that has anything like a Second Amendment, our Founding Fathers enshrining the right to bear arms in our founding principles in recognition of it being the ultimate bulwark against tyrannical government. They were guns owned by civilians that freed us from British tyranny. The fact that tyrants, dictators, thugs and gross human-rights violators want to control small arms worldwide is hardly a surprise.

    In June, 150 members of Congress sent a letter to Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warning that the treaty is "likely to pose significant threats to our national security, foreign policy and economic interests as well as our constitutional rights."

    Addressing the Conservative Political Action Conference recently, National Rifle Association Vice President Wayne LaPierre accused the president of working behind the scenes with the U.N. on a "treaty that could effectively ban or severely restrict civilian ownership of firearms worldwide."

    Private ownership of firearms is a cornerstone of American liberty. If the people of places such as Sudan and Syria had gun rights protected by their government and courts, would they be oppressed and slaughtered? We think not.

    Under the Constitution, any treaty must be ratified by two-thirds of the Senate. But this is an administration that has shown more respect for the United Nations Charter than to our sacred founding document. Our Second Amendment rights are being jeopardized by a vague and misguided treaty.



    Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/ibd-edito...arms-treaty-global-gun-grab.htm#ixzz2C9n7zUiy
     
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    See above. That treaty deals with international arms sales -- you know, like Russia selling tanks to Syria? It has nothing to do with your personal domestic firearms.
     
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    If thats the case, then theres no reason to sign it cause America is a major arms dealer.

    People need jobs in America.
     
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    Some stupid UN law isnt gonna stop Russia from selling Arms.

    They sure as hell aint gonna sign it.
     
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    Russia, Iran Discuss Arms Deal

    During an October 1-5 visit to Russia, Iranian Defense Minister Admiral Ali Shamkhani signed a military cooperation agreement that will reportedly result in hundreds of millions of dollars of new arms deals between the two countries.

    Shamkhani, who had postponed an earlier visit in order not to overlap his stay with one by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, visited Russian arms manufacturing plants, met with top Kremlin officials, and signed a framework agreement for future cooperation on military-technical issues.

    Neither Russian nor Iranian government officials gave details of the October 2 framework document, but press reports and analysts from both countries said it paved the way for future Russian sales of fighter jets, tanks, missiles, and naval ships to Iran that could be worth $300 million annually.
     

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