US shutdown: White House voicemail changed to blame Democrats

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Covfefe, Jan 23, 2018.

  1. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2016
    Messages:
    24,354
    Likes Received:
    10,858
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'd knock on his door & offer him a hug, but I think you're closer. :)
     
  2. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2008
    Messages:
    46,813
    Likes Received:
    26,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    [​IMG]

    Hoist by your own TDS. :lol:

    The next time you think of making a public spectacle of your ignorance of the law....let it go.....
     
    vman12, Ddyad and Antiduopolist like this.
  3. ThorInc

    ThorInc Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2017
    Messages:
    19,183
    Likes Received:
    11,126
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well tRUmp did put them into play...........no?
     
    The Bear likes this.
  4. jay runner

    jay runner Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    16,319
    Likes Received:
    10,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Barack Obama put them in play with an executive order. Now we're at the two minute warning, 4th quarter.

    Schumer is on his heels fading and Trump has the ball with the freedom to run plays any way he wants.
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2018
    Ddyad likes this.
  5. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2011
    Messages:
    48,878
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No actually Obama placed them on the table and the D's have been using them since.. Learn about the issue before you pipe in again thanks.
     
    Ddyad and jay runner like this.
  6. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2011
    Messages:
    48,878
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You still dont know the difference between legal and illegal immigration do you? Meanwhile you throw around nothing but insults.... Now ask you why someone ( Obama) repeatedly said he did not have the authority to do it but did it anyways is not the issue but the one who ended it is..... I am asking you to think.. No insults.. No flamebait.. Think.
     
    mngam and Ddyad like this.
  7. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,069
    Likes Received:
    9,458
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Dear god. The country is in very serious trouble if you believe this. The "deep state" was never even hinted at until Trump told his cult that it did.

    For the record. You have nothing of the sort. You have unfounded accusation, and a president who has created a distrust of almost every government institution from whole cloth, that has been swallowed by his cult without question.

    Th real danger is that the right people such as yourself actually believe that some "deep state" can somehow exist thought the entirety of government to destroy the republican party, and ONLY the republican party, and then in the very next sentence scream about how inept government is.
     
    The Bear, Zhivago and bx4 like this.
  8. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,069
    Likes Received:
    9,458
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Those who work there are. But you knew that......
     
  9. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2014
    Messages:
    20,296
    Likes Received:
    7,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They are other terms for what some now call the deep state. How about the old one...the powers that be? Or, the status quo? Better?

    When you have long serving, honest men of integrity, and patriots, who were in intel, and now form VIPS, tell you there is a soft coup being run...who would I trust? Your partisan opinion, or theirs? Yes, I will give them the creds sir, and never will give creds to any tribalistic trump hating partisan. Their brains don't work properly, like a corrupted hard drive, always in the process of crashing. It is self evident to even a half arse objective, logical, rational brain. Hell, just read their OPs.
     
  10. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And who do they work for?
     
  11. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You mean do I rant and rave nonsense? I leave that up to others.
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The Dreamers were here legally by EO until Trump canceled it and even then were still here legally for 6 mos since Trump gave an extension, otherwise they would be arresting them now as where and who they are is well known. I realize you can't understand simple facts through the red haze of hatred that clouds your vision when we talk about anyone not in the alt.right approved group but that is the case
     
    The Bear and Zhivago like this.
  13. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2016
    Messages:
    24,354
    Likes Received:
    10,858
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We need to impeach Trump to save PF! :eek:
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  14. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Debatable since the EO was working through the courts and likely to fail like DAPA did since the President cannot change law by fiat. That case went on hold when Trump pushed it back to Congress, where it belonged.
     
    Labouroflove likes this.
  15. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2011
    Messages:
    48,878
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Please link to anyone claiming Obama's EO was legal hell Obama himself said it was not.
    http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...tte-obama-said-22-times-he-lacks-power-chang/

    You are posting with no information on the topic and yet all you do is insult.. So many words i could use but i would play your game.
     
  16. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,069
    Likes Received:
    9,458
    Trophy Points:
    113
    THEY are not immune from the Hatch Act. No matter who they work for, or what Trump tells them to do.
     
    Zhivago and ThorInc like this.
  17. navigator2

    navigator2 Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2016
    Messages:
    13,960
    Likes Received:
    9,411
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If Chucky doesn't submit, he's going to remove them from the board.
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    A simple "no" will suffice

    How about the even older one, the JEWS. They're history's all-purpose nameless villains, always the first to be singled out for death when your basic purpose is to murder most of humanity.

    Deep State, Establishment, Jews, Always some shadowy vast conspiracy that nobody can really name but every bad thing can be blamed on, a wonderful enemy that the people can be directed against forever, because it doesn't really exist.

    And PLEASE stop the BS that one or the other of Trump's family is married to one I can name LOTS of high Nazis who had Jewish relatives or ancestors, hell, HITLER may have been one
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2018
    Zhivago likes this.
  19. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2014
    Messages:
    20,296
    Likes Received:
    7,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wow, I had no idea a president could be a legislator and write a new law! I thought he was bound by the rule of law and what congress enacts as law. I reckon things have changed?

    This FDR Progressive hates no one, especially poor illegal aliens. What I do love is national sovereignty and the right of a nation to control its borders. Not anarchy like you. And anyways, you don't keep up with my posts. I want the people brought here as kids, illegally by their law breaking parents to be able to stay here. By legislation of some sort. Give em green cards, which will allow them to stay and work, but not vote. Why help out the dems in their efforts to get voters by illegal immigration? I would think the same way if it were the GOP.
     
  20. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2014
    Messages:
    20,296
    Likes Received:
    7,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Jews? What has that got to do with the existence of a faction within our gov't that is now called the deep state? You know, Ike referenced one form of this, when he said beware of the military industrial complex. Oh, you forgot? Carry on then.

    Thing about faux liberals, is they see racists where none exist. But you guys seldom think, but exist from one knee jerk to another. How many do you have in your arsenal now? I keep hoping I will see a non knee jerk faux liberal here. In vain. But they do make wonderful parrots. For the big brain who does the thinking for them.
     
  21. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,485
    Likes Received:
    25,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The DACA shutdown was indeed an epic political fail.

    "Not only did Schumer come up short of getting a deal to prevent the deportation of "Dreamers" — people brought to this country illegally when they were children — but he divided a Democratic Party that had previously been unified. And he let Trump and McConnell walk away from it all as the clear winners on politics, policy and strategy. The move immediately drew the wrath of immigrant-rights activists and the party's left wing."
    NBC, Schumer's rare double-buckle on the shutdown infuriates Democrats on the left, BY JONATHAN ALLEN, POLITICS JAN 22 2018.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...s-democrats-n839946?__twitter_impression=true

    A DDP "double buckle". Who are the political geniuses who convinced the DDP to dig this pit and jump into it?
    I wonder how much they were they paid for their advice? ;-)
     
    vman12 and jay runner like this.
  22. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    12,838
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Employees of the "Executive Office of the President" are exempt.

    • (i) an employee paid from an appropriation for the Executive Office of the President; or
    • (ii) an employee appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, whose position is located within the United States, who determines policies to be pursued by the United States in the nationwide administration of Federal laws.
    The Executive Office of the President of the United States consists of the immediate staff of the President of the United States and multiple levels of support staff reporting to the President.
     
    Ddyad, vman12 and jay runner like this.
  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So the Deep State is the Military Industrial Complex? the Military that Trump keeps showering in money and the Defense Contractors that the Military keeps passing the money on to? THEY'RE the ones who keep opposing TRUMP? the biggest sugar daddy they've had since...well, hell, I can't think of ANYONE more pro-military spending, EVER. Can you?

    Y'know, one of the things about conspiracy theories; they have precious little in the way of real backing but they generally make a LITTLE sense, if you squint hard, look just right and, above all, hate the right people, but this idea is like Flat Earth, it doesn't make any sense at ALL>
     
    The Bear and Zhivago like this.
  24. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2011
    Messages:
    48,878
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The OP is a conspiracy theory...
     
    jay runner likes this.
  25. gc17

    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    5,187
    Likes Received:
    2,015
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This probably (the dems favorite word) should have been the last post in this thread. Good job.
     

Share This Page