USA Preparing to Attack Russia

Discussion in 'Security & Defenses' started by AlphaOmega, Oct 15, 2016.

  1. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not what I say. Vice President Biden said it. Do you all deny the vice president said this? Or do you maybe want to watch the news today. Any real news channel should work. The united states according to biden IS going to attack russia. He said it will be at the time of our choosing when it will have the most impact. I just watched it again.
     
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    Yes. The Sunni/Neocon alliance, fronted by Obama and Clinton wants a hot war with Russia. Their economic policies lie in ruins and as WWII ended the Great Recession, so they assume a full military mobilization will hide their economic failure even while allowing another vast expansion of Central Control over our vast nation.

    And I don't see anyone in Congress standing up and yelling HALT! to the Clinton/Obama/Neocon forces that are backing us into a war with Russia.
     
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    Ah, such utter irresponsible words. Why is it, that so many americans are totally and completely disconnect from reality? What creates this?

    The Russians have never done well with being taught lessons by the robber baron elite and the gov't that they now control on so many fronts. Anyone here know a damn thing about history? How about the history our species? I do not think so. Ignorance might be blissful, but it also tends to see empires vanish from the face of the earth.
     
  4. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well honestly, nuclear war is the only thing obama hasnt screwed up yet on. Of course he tries to start war with russia. He has corruption to cover up.
     
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    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russia hacks the west, the west hacks Russia But it is generally not in reference to elections, but more important matters. If we hack Russia, which we do, Russia has the same right to hack up, for information.

    If America was being surrounded by a Russian force, let us call it HATO, was having an economic war waged against us, by Russia, creating suffering for our people, WHAT would America do and feel towards Russia?

    Your attitude is so elitist, so entitled, and so dangerous.
     
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    I doubt Obama is gonna attack Russia. This stuff will keep escalating until something breaks, or an accident happen which could lead to war, if Hillary wins. Obama is in no trouble, for he can hang in there for a scant few months and then he is out of office. Not like MSM is ever gonna cover any evidence that might show up this admin for being corrupt, or guilty of crimes against the republic.

    So, I am not buying into him attacking Russia. But the attitude in DC in regards to Russia is irresponsible and very dangerous, that much is fact.

    Obama is too smart to do such a thing, but Hillary? She is not too smart to do such a thing. Her sociopathy trumps her ivy league education.
     
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    And, if it comes to it, the Russians and their Chinese allies may have a lesson to teach us in "the West" as well.

    From Russian sovereign territory on the Baltic Sea, the Kaliningrad Oblast, Russia can put ballistic missiles on Warsaw, Berlin, London, and just about anywhere else in the EU within a matter of a few minutes.

    And anytime that China would want to, Xi Jinping can have his North Koreans begin a very nasty, highly-destracting war with South Korea, while China adds to the fun by even more aggressively projecting military power in the South China Sea.

    Russia and China are very adept at all forms of espionage and hacking, of course, especially against adversaries whose leadership guidance is no more competent than the ones who run things in the Obama regime.

    Hint: it's not 1991 anymore. Neither Russia nor China are what they used to be anymore, and the United States is DAMNED sure not the nation we were anymore, either. Obama would do well to just concentrate on his last lavish presidential holiday vacation in Hawaii and forget about trying to match wits with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping. As we have seen in the past, every time he has tried to do this all he has succeeded in doing is making an even bigger stupid ass out of himself than everyone knew he was anyway....
     
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    You can prove it? Why Russia? .... Maybe China? Or Germany? Or Sweden?
     
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    There is a danger of war, a big one, when the west is in dire economic straits. War and hard economic times seem to be tied at the waist. And lest we forget, there is a major economic implosion in our future. The only reason we are not in another great depression, but worse, is due to the amount of money being pumped into the system to keep it from imploding. But that is not sustainable. A time will come when it comes crashing down, it is inevitable, and most honest economists know this, and a few have voiced it.

    Our problem is, we did not learn the lessons from what preceded the crash of 29 and the great depression. For when you allow your robber barons to run an economy, for their benefit, it will always crash, for their greed which is insatiable, trumps basic common sense. It always has.

    So what these robber barons have created, the destruction of our economic model which gave us the American dream and history's largest middle class, beginning obstensibly in 1981, and replacing it with a neoliberal model which once again created even greater wealth disparity and income disparity as in the gilded age, there is a cost to this. And the fact is, such a model cannot be sustained, and it will always crash an economy. We temporary stopped another great depression by the injection of printed money into the system, several times, but we are coming to a point where it cannot be done, and then comes the crash that will make 1929 look like picnic.

    With this, comes war, and you can set your watch by this certainty. Who will we war with? Only two. Russia, China. And when it gets to that, if it goes nuclear, lights out folks. This is what the robber baron greed creates. This is what happens when you turn our economy over to these robber barons. And there is no FDR around, to cut off their nutsacks and force them back into line. Of course, if you know history, you will remember the coup that was planned by these robber barons during the time of FDR, which Gen. Butler busted them on, before congress to stop it. One of the major players in planning to take FDR out, was non other than the grandpa of George Bush, Sr. Prescott Bush, as well as George Herbert Walker, and about 30 other robber baron elites. None ever went to jail. Too big to jail. Sound familiar? We are once again at a place where our elites, and their puppets like Hillary, are too big to jail. Imagine that.
     
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    You're right. Russia is the most peaceful country in the world. The US and the EU - is the aggressor. Russia has never attacked, only defended.
     
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    Nope...Biden said exactly what you posted which does not equate to war in anyone's mind but your own. What the U.S. is thinking about is simple retaliation and very limited at that...kinds wimpy if you ask me. I would prefer we release details to a select few in Russia as to how to subvert internet blocking of outside news sources and how to subvert state runs TV. Then show the hackers there just how effective it can be done.
     
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    The Gazis (global socialist) that now control America, want the 2 nationalist super power countries to destroy each other. This way they can swoop in and replace their cultures with Gazi-ism. Britain walked away from Gazi-ism and now may find themselves in the Gazis sites as well. If I was Russian, I'd be worried. The people in power in America hate them, and Americans too. They could care less how many racist, fat, lazy Americans die. This alone makes them very dangerous because they are not worried about retaliatory strikes. They can justify any action they feel leads to the greater good, global socialism.
     
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    The Gazis (global socialist) really pushing for war here. It's scary. Most Americans couldn't find Russia on a map due to our awesome education system. A war would be a total waste of life and treasure for both of our nations.

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    The Gazis (global socialist) really pushing for war here. It's scary. Most Americans couldn't find Russia on a map due to our awesome education system. A war would be a total waste of life and treasure for both of our nations.
     
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    I hear it was anonymous that did the hacking. If it was the RNC and their pay to play being exposed, the Gazis (global socialist) wouldn't say anything about it.
     
  15. AlphaOmega

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    Yeah or it may even be the group that already claimed it was them...anonymous. Obama and Hillary know there is something in their emails about to come out and they are attempting to start a war with Russia to cover it up. I even noted days ago that Ive seem far too many obama mouthpieces blaming Russia without any basis whatsoever. That was them greasing the pole for when they decided to use Russia as their scapegoat.
     
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    A targeted announced cyber attack on another sovereign nation without cause is an act of war. Imagine what the leftists would be saying if Trump said what Biden said. Guess you guys were war mongers after all. Now is your time to disprove that by denouncing Obama for this actions.
     
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    I see...so it's the "Announced" thingy that starts the war?

    I guess we should just do what China North Korea and Russia do.

    Kinda Pearl Harborish isn't it?
     
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    The only way to stop the war is to vote for the 'anti establishment' figure, Donald Trump... that is if they don't start it before then.
     
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    Imagine if the politicians in Russia were calling for regime changes in the US how we would react?
     
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    No how about we dont attack Russia at all. How about we just put Hillary and Obama on trial for treason and be done with it. Thats what this is all about. Attempting to cover up their treason by starting a war with Russia, just like anonymous said days ago.
     
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    In this case it retaliation in kind. I gave you a link which you obviously didn't
    watch.

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    In this case it retaliation in kind. I gave you a link which you obviously didn't
    watch.
     
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    WOW....uh...okay.
    Have A Nice Day:smile:
     
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    Look up Russian "Zhirinovsky"... He's Russia's Donald Trump.. It will be educational.
     
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    Look at the quality of candidates we get for POTUS and VP. Is it any wonder at all that they can't do diplomacy?
     
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    Hillary Clinton has repeatedly promised to attack Russian military aircraft and civilian jetliners over Syria - which is war against Russia, and boasted of an endorsement by an ex-CIA head who openly advocates using American military forces to assassinate all Russian in the M.E.
     

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