Vermont Bistro Scolded for Removing Its Bacon Sign

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  1. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think the issue here is special attention. They had a sign about their bacon, which two people complained about - because the two people don't eat it. ^_- So that'd be like if I came in and complained about them advertising a Cobb salad, because I don't like Cobb, and then they take it off the menu because the mention of it offends me.

    I seriously doubt that any reasonable restaurant would take Cobb salad off the menu if I told them "I don't like Cobb salad." This is a pretty clear hypersensitivity, not market forces.
     
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    Hyersensitivity or not it's still the market.
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    So how does that pertain to this conversation?
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not really.
     
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    The problem is, none of us can do that. We all hold stereotypical ideas even though we might not realize or understand that we are holding them. The bigotry doesn't have to be hurtful to be bigotry. Perfect example. I dislike the NY Yankees, Oakland A's and LA Dodgers. That makes me a bigot, even though I might like their fans or I might like a player on their teams.

    We've completely cheapened the term by excessive overuse.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    It answered the question of a post.
     
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    It's pandering to the lunatic fringe. Progressive leftist Obama voters do it all the time. Political correctness is the bane of our society.
     
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    Let me rephrase, what does it mean?

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    True, we all have these thoughts because we can't possible know everyone of every single group out there, it's too much information. So hence why I said treat. I can have sterotypical ideas about people, it's something that everyone does. But if I choice to ignore that when I meet an individual and treat him/her as an individual capable of debunking my assumptions, then that's the difference.
     
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    If the market is reacting to the people who partcipate in the market, say a consumer who has a beef with a pork sign, then yes the market is reacting to that.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You said before that it is the business reacting to the market. When people say, "the market", they almost always mean "market forces". For example, if you sell bacon and demand for bacon drops, you lower your production (or maintain less inventory, if you're only involved in the final point sale). However, if you sell bacon and one guy comes up and says, "I don't like bacon" and you then stop selling bacon, despite the obvious market demand, that isn't you reacting to market forces, that's you reacting to a guy.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Some left wing nut said something about how bad publicity was always bad
    for business. I provided an example that is isn't.
     
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    Who said that?

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    Isn't that one guy a market force?
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That one guy is not "market forces", as I've said. But if you don't want to take it from me, just google "market forces" and look at the dictionary definition it pulls up. It will show that, as I have said, "market forces" refers to supply and demand.
     
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    "Forces of demand and supply representing the aggregate influence of self-interested buyers and sellers on price and quantity of the goods and services offered in a market."

    Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/market-forces.html#ixzz3CJjih2Jw

    I would say that this guy is a market force according to the definition.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :blankstare: No. If the buyer just decided for himself "I don't like bacon, I am not buying bacon", he would be affecting the demand. That's not what happening. He threw a fit, and someone took down the sign because they were worried that they offended a sensitive group. That isn't market forces.
     
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    This should answer your question.
     
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    If you're saying I said an absolute, I didn't.
     
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    An absolute? Where did you read that? Is this a joke or are you trolling for
    an argument?
     
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    I'd say the same thing for you. I clearly say that there are some cases when you wouldn't want negative publicity.
     
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    Unless they are trying to market to vegans, you are wrong. If it's a place that has bacon as one of it's biggest sellers, there is nothing wrong with advertising bacon.

    What this is a case of, is not them making changes based on advertisement needs, but being pushed and goaded into changing their advertisiments because some people did not like it. This is BS. Just because vegans don't eat bacon doesn't give them the right to interfere with a company's right to advertise bacon in their marketing.
     
  21. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    I wonder how long it will be before bacon is banned from hamburgers and restaurant menus?
     
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    New York will be the first state to do it. Just like they banned large sodas and other things of that sort. (*)(*)(*)(*)ing fascists should all be dragged into the street and shot.
     

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