"Walking Guns" Programs Started Under Bush!

Needy much???

 

Seeing as we are discussing a non-current event in the Current Events forum, I guess expecting you to stay on topic is a bridge too far...

 

Oh the woefully uninformed.

There is something already being done about operation "wide receiver" and no one was killed. I will expect manslaughter charges all they way up the ladder to the White House in Fast and Furious.

 

Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.

Grassley didn't confirm what you are suggesting about Bush. Grassley said if it is true about Bush it was equally illegal.

Go ahead embarrass me. By now you should realize that I have a small ego and will immediately admit error. It's a good practice. Show me what you know about the hearsay and its exceptions.

 

Government is a big place. How did Reagan not know that arms were being sold to Contras?

Fun fact: Did you know that Clinton once asked for the governmental files on Area 51? He was denied due to a "lack of need to know".

 

Who are you Objecting to? There's no judge here.

Heh, kids.

 

Here's part of the statement from Issa and Grassley for the record:


"...Senator Chuck Grassley and Congressman Darrell Issa today said that Attorney General Eric Holder received at least five weekly memos beginning in July 2010, including four weeks in a row, describing the ill-advised strategy known as Operation Fast and Furious. The memos were to Holder from Michael Walther, the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center.

The Attorney General told Issa during a House Judiciary Committee in May 2011 that he had just learned of Fast and Furious a few weeks before. Yet, on January 31, in a previously scheduled meeting, Grassley personally handed him two letters about Fast and Furious. Grassley and Issa said they find it very troubling that Holder actually knew of Operation Fast and Furious much earlier, and in greater detail than he ever let on.

The memos specifically said that the straw buyers were “responsible for the purchase of 1500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels.”

“With the fairly detailed information that the Attorney General read, it seems the logical question for the Attorney General after reading in the memo would be ‘why haven’t we stopped them?’” Grassley said. “And if he didn’t ask the questions, why didn’t he or somebody in his office?”...

 

So you admit the policy was already in place.

 

This has made things even worse for the current Administration.

Now they have to explain how something similar to the "wide receiver" (which they prosecuted people for) could be allowed to happen again... but much worse this time around.

 

You're making the Dog Ate My Lunch argument. It wasn't acceptable when Reagan made it and it isn't acceptable now.

 

I'm teasing you because of the illegitimacy of your proferred evidence.

 

No, you don't have any evidence. It's all hearsay by biased Obama administration officials who aren't testifying under oath.

 

Yeah, but at least their A.G. was forthcoming.

 

The memos to Holder prove his knowledge of Gunwalker. And they also prove that he lied to Congress under oath. That means a special prosecutor must be appointed to investigate the matter and to determine whether criminal charges should be filed against Obama's Attorney General Eric Holder.

 

How did Clinton not know that arms were being sold to to the Muslim fundamentalist regime of Alija Izetbegovic in Bosnia?

 

I never said it was acceptable. But it happens. The point I object to is the "AH-HA OBAMA DID IT" When this policy was in place under the last administration and none you even knew it either.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...rograms-started-under-bush-6.html#post4551640

The Obama administration is already prosecuting "wide receiver" participants, read my post above. There needs to be manslaughter charges all the way to the White House for "fast & furious".

 

We didn't know about it because it didn't get US agents killed. Obama's operation did. Even the media can't ignore it now. As they clearly ignored the other operation, and I know you aren't going to claim they had a conservative bias when Bush was president, are you?

 

No Federal agent were killed either.

 

If it is proven that Bush countenanced such an operation then let him be prosecuted and suffer the full measure of criminal justice. No body in the federal govt. can be trusted regardless of party. Power corrupts.

 

Do you not understand the difference between policy and operation?

So, post a link that it's POLICY to continually let guns walk.

 

No, Obama was president in 2009, not Bush.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fast_and_Furious

 

So your pro gun then?

 

It looks like the "cover for Obama" crowd are spinning again.

If the program under Bush's administration was the same, how many of those guns were used to kill Americans, how many .50 cal. sniper rifles were shipped to the cartels in Mexico, and how many federal employees were instructed to lie about the program to investigators?>