Want to stop racism?

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  1. Winter Sun

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    I don’t judge people based on their race, nor do I rank races. You obviously can’t stereotype an entire group as intelligent or having the best dance skills, and then judge all races as superior or inferior based on those stereotypes. One, there is too much subjective opinion involved, and secondly, many individuals will not live up to those stereotypes. When people don’t live up to positive racial stereotypes (I gave this Asian a job, expecting him to smarter than all the white and black employees, but he isn’t) it often leads to conflict.
     
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    As long as average racial differences in intelligence, crime, and illegitimacy persist, racism will persist.
     
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    Jews comprise both a religion and a race. Anyone can convert to Judaism, although the process is more lengthy than converting to Christianity or Islam. Ashkenazi Jews are a racial group. They are descended from Old Testament Isaelites, first century Italians, and the various European nations the Ashkenazim have lived in since. Ashkenazi Jews are the Jews with the high IQ averages.
     
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    In a discussion of average racial differences "racist" should not be part of the discussion. The use of that word injects emotion on what ought to be a calm discussion of differences that can be easily documented.
     
  5. Jolly Penguin

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    Why? Averages tell you little about two particular individuals, so it's not rational or moral to prejudge people just because they happen to share a physical characteristic that you know the average of.
     
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    Back when I was in college my sociology professor told our class something very profound. He said, racism is the psychological equivalent to the physical body's defense mechanism to reject that which is foreign. In other words, racism is God-given natural instinct to reject that which is foreign so kind will produce kind. This is also the first command of God in Genesis 1... that each creature reproduce his own kind. Under God's Biblical law, even sowing diverse seeds in the same field is forbidden.

     
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    There are three races. Caucasian, Asian and Negroid.

    For example. A person from India,. Even with the tan skin shade is Caucasian. So Jews are not a race.
     
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    You have certainly rationalized your racism to the point you seem comfortable with it.
    Jews are an ethnicity. I had a relative who was racist against Koreans, other Asians not at all. Racism has a soft meaning. You can be racist against African Americans and not so much Cubans. So its usually a foreign ethnicity that we feel threatened by, blame or as in my father-in-laws case take the actions of a few to be the trait of an entire ethnicity.
     
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    We are not talking about groups of people within a race. We are talking about genetics and origin. Every person boils down to three races. The one's I listed. If you want to be racist against North Koreans. It's the culture I would guess. And not the genetics.
     
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    I don't need to rationalize racism. Like breathing, it exists. It's God-given natural instinct all races have to prefer their own kind over those who are different. And no amount of draconian humanistic laws will change what is part of God's natural order.

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    Or put secularly, it is the flip side of empathy. Our brains have been wired through millions of years of evolution to see ourselves in others who are similar to us, and we "feel" their pain. Mirror neurons fire when we see others suffer, and the more they remind us of ourselves the more these neurons fire.

    This is why we naturally care more for our own children than other people's children, more for our own neighbors and citizens, more for our own race, more for our own species, and more for mammals than reptiles.

    It is also why Stockholm syndrome happens, and why enemies in wars are depersonalized, and why religions demonize those they wish people to hate. The more you otherize somebody the more apt you will be to not have empathy for them.

    It is also why the recent "anti-racists" insisting race be how we all primarily identify is a doomed strategy. The more you focus on race; the more you empathize how very different we are from one another, the more you will get racism. Pushing for race irrelevance is the best strategy.

    Racism is indeed natural. That doesn't make it good, or even rational. It happens due to our having spent millions of years in competing tribes, and it is something we should guard against and be aware of on ourselves so we can stop or minimize it.
     
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    What of the three do Polynesians, Native Americans and Aborigines fit into?
    You have very nicely.
     
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    I don't think it is that easily separated. Within each of those broad categories there are genetic subgroupings. I can distinguish a Samoan from a Korean just by looking at them. And what am I as a Filipino? Am I Asian? White? Black? Hispanic? And what about mixed race people?
     
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    Native Americans are a descendant of mongoloids (Asians). The other two you can discover on your own with Google.
     
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    Doesn't matter. That's our racial branches. The rest are just products of environmental differences.
     
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    This is ridiculous. To say racism is sexual in nature is ludicrous. The KKK did not lynch Blacks because they wanted White women.White settlers didn't ethnically cleanse North America because they wanted Amerind women. The Aussies are not doing the same there because they wanted Aborigine women. Further the Bible says to love one another as we love Jesus. That which we do to each other we do to Him. Don't use the Bible to justify a hate-filled attitude.
     
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    Isn't all racial different the products of environmental differences plus mutation and survival and sex?

    Or do you think these "3 races" were different from the start of humanity?
     
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    Add to that the realization that Jesus isn't/wasn't "white" as most racist white people define "white", and you've got a pretty nice argument there for Christians. If you love Jesus, you love somebody who isn't/wasn't "white" already.
     
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    So Native Americans are Asians? They would be amused. So if "descendancy" counts we're all Africans.
     
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    Native Americans did historically come over the Bering strait from Asia, yeah. Its why they look kind of like people from Mongolia. And yeah, if you go back far enough all of our family trees reach back to Africa.
     
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    Which means we all get reparations!
     
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    Negroid is not a race.
     
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    Yes. It most certainly is.

    https://www.reference.com/world-view/names-human-races-6270dae14a4d0fed
    Negroids originate from the equatorial regions of Africa and India and include Pygmy, Sudantic and Bantu sub-groups. They typically have darkly pigmented brown to black skin, coarse black hair and wide nasal ridges, lips and brows.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization)
    "The 1775 treatise "The Natural Varieties of Mankind", by Johann Friedrich Blumenbach proposed five major divisions: the Caucasoid race, the Mongoloid race, the Ethiopian race (later termed Negroid), the American Indian race, and the Malayan race, but he did not propose any hierarchy among the races.[57] Blumenbach also noted the graded transition in appearances from one group to adjacent groups and suggested that "one variety of mankind does so sensibly pass into the other, that you cannot mark out the limits between them".[58]"

    https://biologywise.com/list-of-human-races
    The Basic Races of Humanity
    ~ Caucasoid
    ~ Mongoloid
    ~ Negroid
    ~ Australoid

    I'm aware of the woke culture removing the race of negroid because of some bullshit systemic racism crap. I reject it. There are biological differences to the races which is how they got their subgroups from the human species. I don't care if someone in 2019 suddenly got so upset about labels that they have to reject biology to make themselves feel better.

    Any other questions?
     
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    I didn't even bother to read your post. Negroid is a racist term invented by White Supremacists. Is there a country called "Negro" in Africa? Is there a tribe of Africans called "Negro"?
    Of course not. It's a shame racism is so hard to eradicate.
     
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    Is their a country call Caucasoid? The differences in the subgroup need a label. That's the label. Negroid term was born in the 1700's. The racial slur cousin was invented in the 1800's.

    Nuff said.
     
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