War On Electric Cars: BigOil Smugly Says: "Let the Free Market Decide"

nope just speaking the truth. the lil tuna cans they offer are dangerous and very ill prepared pieces of technology. hun i work in this area and am very well informed on all makes and models as i gotta work and see these things on a daily basis and am always learning more via the internet to understand whats gonna come my way. there are many gas powered vehicles i will tell you are a waste of time and built completely retarded, its not just electric cars i have a thing against.

and im gonna tell you that the electric cars of today are complete (*)(*)(*)(*) and very dangerous for the road. faulty equipment, underbuilt chassis and complete lack of power make them dangerous. same thing with those crap chevy aveos and things of the like.

 

'hon'...lol..

If you work in the area of producing gasoline cars, then I'm going to file that away when I read your opinions on the electric cars.

If you are that disappointed with the elecric car, why not join their team of engineers and help them polish it up? Just like when the model T was introduced? Smart buggy men jumped ship.

 

A better metaphor would probably be steam-powered cars.

 

i dont produce anything, i fix cars. and trust me if you saw what i do and understand both electric and gasoline cars like i do then you would honestly know what you were talking about.

see for you you have a bias because these electric cars are what you particularly want, so you are gonna stand behind them not truly understanding how a car is supposed to be made and the shootty engineering behind what they produce.

im trying to tell you i study all cars since i have to have my hands in them, i do alot of reading and have built cars myself from the ground up so i know whats right and whats plain lazy work brought out by these so called engineers, in which alot of the work they do a 3rd grader could draw in crayon.

these electric (*)(*)(*)(*) cans produced by gm,nissan,honda,toyota,etc. etc. are the lazy and cheap work of engineering and its highly overpriced. great concept but no true follow through just like alot of cars being put on the line.

i mean cmon "hon" , if these guys cant even make hardly very many simple gasoline cars do you really think they are putting their all into these electric (*)(*)(*)(*) cans? no they are not.

the only people putting true good engineering into a all electric vehicle is Tesla, everyone else is light years behind.

dont tell me what i do and dont know about my profession just because you have a bias.

 

the free market is lazy if it really wanted to produce a practical green car that peforms the same as a gas guzzler it could

its easier and cheaper to profit from polluting the environment and sending the military out for oil wars than to change the auto industry for the better

 

Sure. It's really easy to bust into the auto manufacturing marketplace. No problem at all. It's not like BigOil is in bed with Detroit. Nah... It's not like BigOil has been keeping alternatives locked in a dungeon with heavy lobbying and pressures of all sorts...PR smear campaigns to disparage the hopes of the electric car or hybrid..

No..no way.

If BigOil gets gargantuan tax loopholes then green energy should get a gargantuam leg-up. Fair is fair..

 

Yup, it's all a giant conspiracy. Every country is in on it, the entire reason that the technology of battery operated cars are so crappy compared to the antique gas guzzlers is because of the world-wide conspiracy lead by "BigOil".

 

so then you subscribe to the govt mandating what you can buy. Let's just dump all other companies, only allow Govt Motors vehicles to be sold and move forward. How does that sound to you?

 

No, not every country is "in on it". Demand for electric cars exists. The cost of fuel has created that and it won't be going away soon.

You know how the market is when a gigantic demand exists that hasn't yet been completely or even nearly filled. The lust for profiteering is the mother of invention.

The model T will evolve.

 

Of course it will evolve, and the gas-guzzler dinosaurs will be amusing exhibits in a museum somewhere. We had steam locomotives once which were at the cutting edge of technology for the time.
The internal combustion engine has advanced just about as far as it can in its 100 year history. From now on the only way is down...and good bloody riddance. I dream of the day I can walk in a city street with nothing but the hum of electric motors and clean, unpolluted air to breathe. Sadly it won't happen in my lifetime.

 

Oh, what do you know...an electric car caught fire! Egads! Get rid of them all! Recall all of them, crush them and pile them up in the desert!

I suppose a gas car catches fire now and then too. In fact I've seen that on TV many times on the news. So let's round them all up and crush them too!

...lol... says the whip and buggy makers about the model T..

 

Silly, I have to ask...are you on drugs?

 

That's the best retort you can come up with?

If an electric car catches fire and arguments come forward to scrap it therefore... Cannot the same arguments come forwards to scrap a gasoline car if it catches fire?

Or doesn't the free market really exist and instead is the >priveleged< market?

 

um dude, if you paid attention to my point i was making you will notice i did very little to gain 100hp in a 4cyl. turbo and kept it burning clean without any catalytic converters. i also did that on a $1500 budget, if i had $5k i could have easily pushed out 500-600whp but i didnt so i did what i could with what i had so yeah, i consider that pretty impressive.

also i was proving that if a simple mechanic can make something better that the engineers that built these cars should be able to do much more than what i can do.

and (*)(*)(*)(*), yes i could also take a junk yard car,van or truck with a V8 and make it into a 1000hp beast. it takes money but thats not impossible at all. you have to understand those dudes who make Hot Rod mag got nothing but play money funding them and alot of it. if i had the money they had i would have had my M3 over 1000whp by now.

 

start with yours, make a point we can follow lol.

 

Hilarious. Veiled violence. Stay classy boys..

 

No, you're not paying attention: they didn't use any exotic parts. They put a fairly basic twin-turbo system and an eBay intercooler on a junkyard engine and made 1200HP. I doubt they had $3000 in it.

 

what was so violent about asking you to kick off what you would like to see everyone else do with their cars? you are calling for everyone to either not buy gas or to get on with the electric car bandwagon, so im calling you out to lead by example and get rid of your crap first.

 

She won't. In addition to being a Chicken Little liar, SIlly is a raging hypocrite.

 

for one just because its an ebay intercooler dont mean its crap, people seem to think so just because its not brand name and sold very cheap. 2 a twin turbo system will wreak havok when put together with a v8, there is no replacement for displacement dude. a single turbo will really open up a v8 for christ sakes lol.

please show me this project, i want to know the engine that was in this van and the rest of the info.

if i had an extra $3k for the STI i could have bought a bigger turbo,bigger intercooloer and bigger injectors. 0-60mph would have easily been in the high 3's and a quarter mile time in the low 11's or high 10's depending on the launch. all i would need is a few hundred more for a meth kit and i could have ran mid 10's all day. god (*)(*)(*)(*) i miss that car

lol $3k for my M3 and i could buy full exhuast headers to muffler,shark injector,nitrous kit(100 shot), and modify my stock intake. lol without the nitrous id gain maybe around 50hp and 30tq. but id lose about 100lbs. in weight and run around a mid to low 12,with nitrous high 11's. costs so (*)(*)(*)(*)ed much to modify the M3 lol. (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stage 1 turbo kit is $14k

point being a v8 is much much easier to get hp out of, i dont give a (*)(*)(*)(*) which v8 you throw at me, if i can throw a twin turbo kit on it its gonna get nasty.

 

is that not the definition of a liberal? i mean they want us to give and give and give but they want to be able to somehow keep whats theirs lol.

 

Look at my signature. How liberal is it of me to expose the Gay Agenda for what it ultimately leads to?

Reports on electric cars catching fire should be taken just as seriously as gas ones. In other words, the entire electric car industry should not be punished for random mishaps of certain models. Just as you folks would argue on behalf of your masters that we can't get rid of all gas powered cars just because one or seven of them have significant safety issues.

A parts recall will suffice for the electric car just the same as a gas one. Or don't you believe in the free and fair marketplace and competition?

 

i dont have masters, i go along with my experience in this business. the electric cars today are straight crap, plain and simple.

 

OK, now that I'm home (previous post via my phone), I found the article. It's from the September 2011 Hot Rod: LINK. I was a bit off...it wasn't a TOTALLY stock short-block...it got ported (stock) heads with Fel-Pro gaskets & head studs, a mild cam, new lifters (mostly because the stock lifters were loaded with crud), and an intake & throttle body from FAST (Fuel And Spark Technology), not the ZO6 Corvette piece I thought they used. I suspect they used FAST's ECM, also, to make tuning easier. They used a set of headers designed for a truck for the turbos.

Without boost, it wound past 7000RPM and made 450HP. (!)

Yes, the LS engines are THAT good, pushrods and all!

 

thats really nothing fantastic when you are talking about a 5.3l LS motor, those things make horsepower like mad. and considering the parts they purchased for the engine alone they spent well more than $3k. that twin turbo system consisting of 2 76mm turbos no (*)(*)(*)(*) they are gonna hit 1000hp, (*)(*)(*)(*) they hit 600hp on just 7lbs. of boost lol.

when it comes to these motors this is not really a big deal, but im sorry they spent alot more than $3k to get that motor to do what they set out for it to do. this is not a cheap set up what so ever, but it does prove the reliability of the motor which says alot about chevy as they can still produce a strong V8.

p.s. im still contemplating doing an LS swap on my M3