Warmists Now Trying Latest Excuses for Slowdown of Sea Levels Rising Since 2003

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's becoming one of the best comedy routines around: the Global Warming/Climate Change crowd, instead of decrying all the "evidence of warming", being forced to try to explain the COMPLETEL FAILURE of "all the evidence" they claimed we'd be seeing by now, from actually happening.

    After spending the past year trying to explain the COMPLETE SHUTDOWN of any significant warming of the planet, over the part 10+ years, despite the ongoing rise in CO2 levels, even as the Warmist Faithful kept trying to deny the slowdown even occurred, now they have to try to explain the slowdown in the "rising sea levels". Hilarious :


    Shifts in rainfall, not warming pause, slow sea level rise


    OSLO (Reuters) - Heavy rains from the Amazon to Australia have curbed sea level rise so far this century by shifting water from the oceans to land, according to a study that rejects theories that the slowdown is tied to a pause in global warming.

    Sea level rise has been one of the clearest signs of climate change - water expands as it warms and parts of Greenland and Antarctica are thawing, along with glaciers from the Himalayas to the Alps.

    But in a puzzle to climate scientists, the rate slowed to 2.4 millimeters (0.09 inch) a year from 2003 to 2011 from 3.4 mm from 1994-2002, heartening skeptics who doubt that deep cuts are needed in mankind's rising greenhouse gas emissions.

    Writing in the journal Nature Climate Change on Sunday, experts said the rate from 2003-2011 would have been 3.3 mm a year when excluding natural shifts led by an unusually high number of La Nina weather events that cool the surface of the Pacific Ocean and cause more rain over land.

    "There is no slowing in the rate of sea level rise" after accounting for the natural variations, lead author Anny Cazenave of the Laboratory for Studies in Geophysics and Spatial Oceanography in Toulouse, France, told Reuters.

    In La Nina years, more rain fell away from oceans, including over the Amazon, the Congo basin and Australia, she said. It is unclear if climate change itself affects the frequency of La Ninas



    http://news.yahoo.com/shifts-rainfall-not-warming-pause-slow-sea-level-181717185.html

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    Why, sure Little Warmists.


    I know where the sea level increases went: STOLEN BY MANBEARPIG !!!

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  2. mngam

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    They are super cereal this time.
     
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    QUICK TELL THE NAVY! They've been duped...
    US Navy's contingency plans for climate change and RISING SEAS...

    [PDF] 5 Global Warming Contingency Plans Being Made Now - Geneva ...
    https://www.genevaassociation.org/.../07032014_listosaur_ocean-warming. pdf‎Cached
    Mar 7, 2014 ... 5 Global Warming Contingency Plans Being Made Now. 07 March ... U.S. Navy is
    Studying Risks Rising Seas Pose to Operations. Sea-level ...
     
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    Warmers are too arrogant to go back to the drawing board.
     
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    I just had a class on monitoring and establiushing mean sea levels. The important thing they tell us is that a yearly average for mean sea level is completely meaningless. Sea levels are always measured using a 22 and 1/4 year cycle so that all possible variations in tidal influences are taken into account. Apparently, the land surveyors who admit that using a computer to calculate a certain discrete time in the tidal cycle is unreliable are much more honest about their science than climatologists, who insist their computer models are infallible.

    FEMA has chosen to not alter any flood plane maps based on supposed rising ocean levels because the amounts that the oceans supposedly raised are within the margin of statistical error or too small to make even the slightest amount of difference. (In contrast, FEMA did raise the flood plane levels on the Willamette River in Oregon City by 0.10 feet as a result of coffer dams built 12 miles upstream for bridge construction.

    Rising oceans is a crock. It isn't happening.
     
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    And that is an inconvenient truth!
     
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    Everything the algoreists try to shove down our throats is a crock. But they'll throw out some of the damnedest graphs and charts ever seen by man, trying to look intelligent...NOT. I like ManBearPig drinking the excess ocean water much better.:roflol:
     
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    Is anyone watching the series, "Cosmos?" It's excellent. When one listens to the science explained about our universe.....how it all began and how we are NOT in charge of most of what is happening......IMHO, it's rather arrogant (and political) for liberals to believe that somehow not only is man "causing" it.....but that we are arrogant enough to think we could do anything about it even IF we DID believe in it.

    IMO, the cries of "man-made global warming" has always been about anti-capitalists wanting the excuse they need to harm business and harm our country.
     
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    Can you provide a source for that part? Everything I can find says that climatologists admit their models are flawed, incomplete, and do a lousy job of predicting anything. The Official Explanation is that (1) there are too many relevant variables; (2) whose influence isn't well understood; (3) which aren't properly measured anyway.

    When all the political flack is cleared away, what this currently all boils down to is a) CO2 is a greenhouse gas; and b) human activites are steadily increasing its concentration in the atmosphere. Over the last decade or so, the only thing rising is CO2 levels.

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    Well, you really should not omit the net 15 billion tons of CO2 that human activities are adding to our atmosphere each year. This might actually mean something in the long run.
     
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    Al Gore is a snake oil salesman. And he got enough liberals to buy in to it and make him a VERY rich man. BTW, didn't he build a 26,000 sq ft house or something. Then he dumped Tipper and got him a younger one with all that money. See what ya'll did for Big Al???? :)
     
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    Once again, you really should not omit the net 15 billion tons of CO2 that human activities are adding to our atmosphere each year. This might actually mean something in the long run.
     
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    how many times does a so called science need to be proven wrong before it loses all creditability and isn't a science anymore and becomes a cult of brain washed propagandized kool aid drinking sycophant fools
     
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    Like in the next 10 trillon years? Or so?
     
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    Because its a proven fact.
     
  15. Flintc

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    Who knows? Current CO2 levels are thought (based on ice cores and such) to be the highest in 800,000 years. In the past, high CO2 levels correlated with high global temperatures. Which does NOT mean that high CO2 levels caused the high temperatures. CO2 is a mildly effective greenhouse gas.
     
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    The U.S. Military and Navy is currently developing evacuation plans for a number of Pacific Island Nations many of which are U.S. Territories that are homes to MILLIONS of U.S. Citizens as some people do not realize that there are THOUSANDS of Islands in the Pacific and Atlantic that are a part of the United States and exist as U.S. Territories and any person who is born on a U.S. Territory is A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES.

    The problem is that many of these U.S. Territorial Island Nations exist at just a few feet above sea level and due to rising Ocean Water Levels the Pentagon and U.S. Navy and Army Corps. of Engineers have been tasked with both attempting to build massive water dams as well as develop evacuation plans and there is at least 2 Islands that must be evacuated by 2016.

    There is no false science or fake data to the REALITY that the U.S. Military has to evacuate Island Nations that have existed above sea level for thousands upon thousands of years but will soon be under the waves.

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    Climate Change.jpg


    FYI, those climate models are somewhat suspect. That's not to say GW is or is not really happening and to what extent, nor that human activity os or is not primarily responsible for whatever the truth is. BUT - science tells us to doubt that which has not been proven.
     
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    What? That obsequious sycophants are fools?
     
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    Link please. Which islands might those be?
     
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    That being said...we should evacuate New Orleans and half the state of Louisiana next.
     
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    It was no war of the islanders’ making; Kiribati (pronounced Kirr-i-bas) became a killing field in the battle for control of Tarawa’s airstrip, which afforded the possessors aerial command of an endless ocean. The island nation was trapped in a world gone mad with war.
    Seven decades on, it is again being overrun, in the view of the islanders, by a world gone mad with growth and greed.
    The waves are slowly seeping over Kiribati, which is at the frontline of the climate-change-induced rise in sea levels striking low-lying nations all over the world. Formerly part of the Gilbert and Ellice Islands — a British protectorate until the mid 1970s — Kiribati is lower, frailer and more defenceless. It may be the first nation to enter an end game against climate change.
    Kiribati’s leaders now face wrenching questions: How many of its 100,000 people will need to leave? Where will they go? How will it feed those remaining? And, as its islands become uninhabitable, can Kiribati remain a nation at all?

    LINK...http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/kiribati-a-nation-going-under/590/

    This next link is a list of Island Nations that will have to be evacuated due to rising ocean levels.

    LINK....http://www.globalislands.net/news/newsdeskitem.php?newstype=Special&newsid=4660

    As far as U.S. Territories there are MANY Islands on this list that the U.S. Navy will have to evacuate and the Army Corps. of Engineers is currently working on the TARAWA PROBLEM.

    BEFORE A JET TOUCHES DOWN ON TARAWA’S RUNWAY, a ritual intensified by climate change must be enacted on the ground. So over-crowded is Tarawa — 51,000 people are jammed onto a 35-kilometre-long sliver of coral — that a few hundred people now live in shanties made of discarded wood and palm fronds within the scrub next to the runway. Just before the only air link with the outside world lands — a Boeing 737 comes twice a week from Fiji — a white truck is sent up and down the runway to warn off the squatters and others who use the strip as a thoroughfare. Sometimes the airport’s aged fire engine joins in. A red flag is hoisted from a low control tower as the jet screams toward a runway just a few metres above sea level.
    Tarawa’s population density of 5,200 people per square kilometre equates to London’s. It is fast increasing. Almost every metre of land available for dwellings has been taken. The atoll’s graveyards are full, and public health officials are troubled that people frequently bury the dead alongside their homes and hand-dug wells.
    The Kiribati government forecasts that the population on Tarawa will double to 103,000 in 17 years — if it cannot persuade legions of its citizens to emigrate, slow their birth rate (currently nearly double Australia’s) and move at least some to outer islands.
    But some outer islands are also being invaded by the sea. Their fragile fresh water reserves stored naturally beneath the ground are dying away and more and more displaced outer islanders are flocking to Tarawa.

    AboveAlpha

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    You think this is a JOKE?

    I assure you it is NOT.

    U.S. States such as Florida and Louisiana are at grave risk to lose a major portion of their land area.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    It's not people who are directly causing climate change. It's pollution.... 38 billion tons of carbon dioxide per year.

    You can't dump that much CO2 into the environment and expect it to be unaffected.
     
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    It might, but so far it hasn't.

    The crazy environmentalists do real harm to the economy on the basis of a "might."
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Actually, business (for the most part) will not be adversely affected by the AGW taxes and regulations. They've had years to figure out angles they can use to make money.

    It's the consumers and taxpayers and US workers that will get hammered. Just as happened with the Ozone Hole.
     

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