Warmists Now Trying Latest Excuses for Slowdown of Sea Levels Rising Since 2003

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    You really don't know what your talking about do you?

    Ocean Temps. NOT Air Temps are what is used.

    CO2 levels are so high...highest in over 100,000 years....they have raised temps. to the point that CH4 Gel is bubbling up from the ocean floors and CH4 holds in heat 71 times greater than CO2.

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  2. flogger

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    Well you've just invalidated your own hypothesis then haven't you ? If CO2 were indeed the highest in the last 100,000 years and the hypothesis of CO2 driving temperature were correct then why aren't we seeing record breaking temperatures in the paleoclimatic temperature records worldwide ? Not only don't we see that, but modern day temperatures are well within the natural variation of just the last 10,000 years as ice core data from both poles clearly shows.

    http://mclean.ch/climate/Ice_cores.htm

    I guess CO2 isn't all that important after all :roll:
     
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    According to this chart it looks pretty normal to me.

    global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg
     
  4. MannieD

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    Name anyone, anyone at all, that claims CO2 is the only driver oftemperature!
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    Again...you really have no idea what your talking about.

    Because Earth's solar orbit has a wobble there exists a CYCLICAL period of warming trends, hot trends, cooling trends, Ice Ages and these periods have happened many times in the last 100,000 years.

    When Earth's orbit of the sun allows a greater amount of Solar Radiation to reach the Earth Global Temps. will rise even if CO2 Levels are low.

    But right now we are in a relative Cool Period of our Solar Orbit but Global Temps. are rising at an unprecidented rate along with CO2 and CH4 levels.

    You should take the time to learn the SCIENCE involved with this subject before you start speaking about things you don't understand.

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  6. flogger

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    As you have been shown more than once now . Todays conditions are well within the natural variation of recent millenia

    Not relevant over just 10,000 years

    Unprecedented compared to what ? Our instrumental record goes back only 150 years and our truly accurate satellite record only 35 so how can you know what is or isn't unprecedented ?

    How do you know about science when you ignore everything that's presented to you ? I suppose inferring everyone who disagrees with you must be stupid is easier for you :roll:
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    You really are not providing any data nor are you even making sense.

    Please...once and for all if you do not believe it is CO2 Levels that are causing Global Warming and thus causing CH4 to bubble into the atmosphere causing Water Ice to melt all over Earth....PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT YOU STATE IS DOING THIS?

    AboveAlpha
     
  8. flogger

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    I've provided you with a veritable mass of links and data through this thread and others . Until you actually start reading them then you are wasting my time waving an alarmist flag at me

    But you already invalidated the hypothesis yourself earlier so please show the empirical evidence proving the trace gas CO2 must be the cause ? Its your claim so its up to you to prove it. Remember those purple turtles on Pluto ?
     
  9. AboveAlpha

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    LINK....http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/

    This data comes from 100,000 years of Ice Core samples.

    Since every possible natural mechanism that would cause Global Warming has been discounted....all that is left is Man Made Emissions.

    If you disagree....state....EXACTLY what you believe is causing Global Warming.

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  10. jc456

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    Well there hasn't been for fifteen years. Don't you read the reports? IPCC AR5. read it.
     
  11. ImNotOliver

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    If god flooded the earth (Noah’s flood, I presume you are referring to.) then there must everywhere be proof of it. There is no geological evidence that such a flood ever occurred. Therefore your bible is wrong.

    If you think that your imaginary guy in the sky is going to come save you from your destructive behavior then you should be looking in the mirror when you talk about fools.
     
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    Are you arguing against your own argument? The reason you dispute is that global warming is man caused. Then you make the claim that deforestation is the culprit; which is man caused.

    Deforestation is as much a problem as unrestrained pollution.
     
  13. flogger

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    I didn't ask you for a graph of rising CO2 emissions . I asked you to prove they were of any consequence viz temperature variation . ...... fail
     
  14. Poor Debater

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    So is this just a coincidence in your view?

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    Well then...maybe "my imaginary guy in the sky" will be pissed-off enough that he will flood the earth again...just for your demise.:roflol:

    geological evidence? High water mark on Mt. Everest? You know, there is no geological evidence that my basement ever flooded.:omfg:
     
  16. jc456

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    Again, since you're not arguing CO2 causes a temperature increase, your graph is useless. If you are, your graph is useless. You've been told over and over again, you have zero, nadda, no causal evidence. do you hear that? that is pac man getting eaten.
     
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    Simple trollism, as the graph clearly provides causal evidence the you claim does not exist. The observed increase in downwelling IR provides the causal evidence that you claim does not exist.
     
  18. jc456

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    hahahahahahahaha.. what is it you're arguing?
     
  19. AboveAlpha

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    The data that counts is from the CDIAC.

    It is the data the U.S. Military uses.

    AboveAlpha
     
  20. jc456

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    nope!.................
     
  21. AboveAlpha

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    YEP!

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  22. jc456

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    look at you, ain't you being silly?
     
  23. Colonel K

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    He has to, he's matching wits.
     
  24. AboveAlpha

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    I went and ran 6 miles...it was supposed to be 11 miles...in the FREAKIN' POURING RAIN!!!

    My girl...Sky....sat me down with a hot bowl of soup....a cup of tea with brandy....and now I am on my 4th beer!

    I could USE a little Global Warming right now as I was freezing when I got back!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  25. jc456

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    so I see, you're an alcholic who imagines things in your stuper. Nice!
     

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