Wear a freaking mask already

No one ever said that a mask stops ALL. Hence a mask made of any material provides some protection to others. Remember that the main function of a mask is to protect others from being infected by the mask wearer so it makes no difference whether the mask removal is immediate or not as the mask will trap some of the fluids expelled out of the nose or mouth

 

Honesty and truth speaking by Fauci and the mainstream media would have been better still.

 

One caught it in the hospital in which she worked, fully garbed. Contact tracing by the hospital determined the pathway.

The other is a 20 something year old cousin of a good friend.

 

They are the sister and cousin of good friends. I've never met either, so they didn't save my life.

So far, knock on wood, my fairly robust immune system seems to have protected me from the virus during these last 8 months.

 

I am a skeptical and cynical bastard, and have been for years. Part of the reason for that is that I am very well aware that doctors and scientists are mere mortals. They are not infallible like the Pope, AND there are many records showing that those doctors and scientists will write and say what they are paid to write and say, just like so many other humans.

Being a cynical bastard does not necessarily mean one is wrong.

 

Without a mask they could have passed it on to your good friends who could have passed it on to you.

 

There are ways to look at this, paying attention to affiliations, obligatory disclosures of ties with this or that industry, and sources of funding. This might surprise your cynical self but not all papers published out there are trying to push some sort of agenda. A lot of good and decent people are just trying to make science advance, and their "agenda" is often just a desire to save lives and to minimize pain and suffering.

 

Or maybe the cat that was walking down the street too, eh?

 

Here is what Marcia Angell said in 2009. She was the editor of JAMA for 2 decades. I'm impressed with her honesty, because it supports my cynicism.

"It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my 2 decades as editor."

 

That is sad.

 

Yes it is, and combined with many other obscure facts, and given the last 7 months, it is impossible to find respect for Fauci and the others.

I already knew the media was corrupt, and having come from a physician's family it is very saddening to watch Fauci get on TV and terrorize the populace.

 

I am not a great fan of Dr. Fauci's. I was pretty irritated with his deliberate lie (to which he later confessed) about no need to wear masks. I was never able to forgive him for this. I understand his motivation (to stop a run to masks so that they'd not be in shortage for healthcare workers) but lying to the population is not the remedy for this. The remedy is to beef up domestic production.

 

No, it hasn't. Not even close. The only evidence actually demonstrating the efficacy of masks was obtained in clinical settings by medical professionals wearing properly sealed medical-grade respirators. Such evidence does not even come close to demonstrating the efficacy of civilian mask use in the real world.

Ever heard of this thing called individual liberty? Our founders thought it was a pretty big deal. They actually fought a rebellion over it. True story.

I'll do it if I feel it's warranted. But in most situations, it's not warranted. And I'm sure as hell not going to do something just to assuage the utterly irrational fear surrounding this overblown cold virus.

 

That lie you reference is the smallest of all the lies he's told during the last 7 months. Probably 7 years or much more. He showed his true colors in the affair about HIV with Judy Mikovits.

 

With the cat you never know however in your scenario you know with certainty that 2 people that are related to a good friend had contracted the virus. If those 2 people came into contact with your good friend during their infected period and your good friend came into contact with you a contact tracer would probably ask you to get tested or at least be very careful about potentially inflecting others.

 

A man is going on a hike and will not be within 20 feet of another human. Why should be have to wear a mask?

 

Perhaps, but the lesson here is that people have trouble serving two masters and doctors inevitably will do what they think is best for the medical community before they will do what they think is best for the dirty, snotty, hacking patients. In a certain sense, they almost dehumanize the masses with their myopic worldviews.

 

Sure like when they said don't need masks? Those experts?

Or maybe they frickin' are lying damn it.

 

What we are witnessing, my friend, is science in action. Science takes time. We didn't learn about this disease in January, and BAM, the next day we knew everything. Science is the process of disproving previous assumptions. We still know much less than we have yet to learn about this virus.

Are you against adapting to new information?

 

He shouldn’t.

 

I knew in April this was way overblown. Shutdowns made it worse. Masks and social distancing made it worse. Would have been better to do herd immunity. We have treatments that work but the scientists are lying. Hydroxochloriquine and other treatment that they are slow walking through the bureaucracy. Don't trust the government or the scientists and especially the government scientists.

 

Which he had no control over and knew it.
I remember Fauci saying that and (already knowing of the shortage of PPE) I knew exactly what he was doing.
We made our own masks

 

The OP being many months late and much too quiet is not having much effect on his fellow Trump fans eh?

 

Anyone WHO thinks this is just hype without substance is not worthy of my time. Have a good day.

 

Sure, me too, I understood it from the beginning. I posted many times in real time in another forum I used to belong to, before I joined you guys here, saying something like this:

Fauci and the CDC and the WHO are obviously misleading the public and you can see it in their very statements: they say nobody needs to wear a mask, they don't work to protect the wearer, except in healthcare situations and if you are taking care of a sick COVID-19 relative at home. Hm... it makes no sense. So masks don't work... except that they work for the most dangerous situations? That would be the same as saying that "the breaks in a car are useless, they don't really stop the car if the car is going 5 miles per hour... but they do stop the car when the car is going 90 miles per hour." So, the same mask that is efficacious for healthcare workers and for people tending to sick relatives... suddenly stops working in less infectious situations? Yeah, right.

So it was more than obvious that the intent was to preserve the stock... which was also useless. The lack of a stock was in function of our decades-long outsourcing of the means of production to China. We'd be short anyway, even without the lies. And it's not by lying that you earn people's hearts and minds and their respect. Credibility in a crisis is important.

Sure, people made their own masks (actually I didn't; I got N95s and ASTM level 3s from sources I know) but the whole thing undermined the public confidence in masks. The flip-flopping fostered the notion "they don't know what they are saying, so why should I bother wearing a mask"?

No, Fauci's lie may have had good intentions but I'm absolutely convinced that it resulted in a fair number of avoidable deaths.